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post #61 of 118
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Originally Posted by piotrus-g View Post
 

One of these cables costs more than 2x UM Miracle lol

In other words, not worth the money  :rolleyes: 

 

Take that back, I want one LOL


Edited by zachchen1996 - 5/6/14 at 5:33pm
post #62 of 118
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

In other words, not worth the money  :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that. I personally don't listen to cables so for some it might be worth every penny especially it if boost up one's ego :P

Just stating the fact, which is funny to me.

post #63 of 118
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I thought I'd add two more mini-2-mini IC's to the impressions list. I have had both these cables for some time now from Gavin/spkrs01 but I've not had time to go through them properly till today.

 

My base reference is Phanom's/Mezzo Soprano's IC which I believe are Mundorf based cables (top). Please be aware that (by this point, for me), the differences between the cables are quite slight and as what some may term as "splitting hairs". There are differences between the cables but they're (as with some previous) aren't night 'n day differences and really boils down to a matter of sonic preferences, ergonomics of the cables, price/value for money, etc. As such the writeup I have for this isn't going to be big.

 

 

The middle cable is a Crystal Connect Micro by Crystal Cables with Neutrik 3.5mm right-angle connectors. To my ears the Crystal Connect Micro has a slightly deeper sub bass extension with a tighter thump than the Mezzo Soprano but doesn't seem to be as warm as the Mezzo Soprano. I'm tempted to say that it's the upper bass or lower midrange that it's less "full" than the Mezzo Soprano. However the midrange to the trebles are clean and airy despite not having a long burn-in time. If the Mezzo Soprano is warm and rich in sound, the Crystal Connect Micro is more analytical and clinical.

 

 

The 3rd in the stack is the Siltech Duchess (i.e. a 2m Siltech Duchess cable cut up to make into a 9-core mini-2-mini cable). This cable seems to be sheathed in the same fabric material as the Uber mini-2o-mini. To my ears it seems to have the best of both Mezzo Soprano and Crystal Connect Micro worlds. The overall signature seems to lean towards the rich warmth of the Mezzo Soprano but has a nice bass impact and has a somewhat larger and more spacious sound and depth imaging. The trebles feel airy like the Crystal Connect Micro.

 

post #64 of 118
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

I thought I'd add two more mini-2-mini IC's to the impressions list. I have had both these cables for some time now from Gavin/spkrs01 but I've not had time to go through them properly till today.

My base reference is Phanom's/Mezzo Soprano's IC which I believe are Mundorf based cables (top). Please be aware that (by this point, for me), the differences between the cables are quite slight and as what some may term as "splitting hairs". There are differences between the cables but they're (as with some previous) aren't night 'n day differences and really boils down to a matter of sonic preferences, ergonomics of the cables, price/value for money, etc. As such the writeup I have for this isn't going to be big.




The middle cable is a Crystal Connect Micro by Crystal Cables with Neutrik 3.5mm right-angle connectors. To my ears the Crystal Connect Micro has a slightly deeper sub bass extension with a tighter thump than the Mezzo Soprano but doesn't seem to be as warm as the Mezzo Soprano. I'm tempted to say that it's the upper bass or lower midrange that it's less "full" than the Mezzo Soprano. However the midrange to the trebles are clean and airy despite not having a long burn-in time. If the Mezzo Soprano is warm and rich in sound, the Crystal Connect Micro is more analytical and clinical.




The 3rd in the stack is the Siltech Duchess (i.e. a 2m Siltech Duchess cable cut up to make into a 9-core mini-2-mini cable). This cable seems to be sheathed in the same fabric material as the Uber mini-2o-mini. To my ears it seems to have the best of both Mezzo Soprano and Crystal Connect Micro worlds. The overall signature seems to lean towards the rich warmth of the Mezzo Soprano but has a nice bass impact and has a somewhat larger and more spacious sound and depth imaging. The trebles feel airy like the Crystal Connect Micro.



How do you compare siltech duchess against uber mini? Which is better? And what's the price for siltech and how do we get it if we are interested? Thanks
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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:03pm
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

I thought I'd add two more mini-2-mini IC's to the impressions list. I have had both these cables for some time now from Gavin/spkrs01 but I've not had time to go through them properly till today.

Originally Posted by Capri87 View Post

What about Siltech duchess mini to mini cable? I'm more interested in this than the whole headphone cable.. Thanks

 

As per the first sentence of my post, I got both cables from spkrs01. He's a member here on HF.
post #68 of 118

I'm newbie to portable mini to mini cable.
Can you suggest what is the good cable for under $100?

I prefer a very clean and high clarity signature sound in the cable.

I plan to use this cable with DX50 (DAP) and Tralucent T1 (Amp).

 

Can anyone comment below cables:
 

1) Audio Monitor, Mini to Mini Cable 3.5mm-3.5mm Silver/Copper Hybrid, Cryoed ($64.99)

2) Dream Cable 5N OCC Silver ($119 @14 mm)


Edited by mannkind246 - 11/25/13 at 12:41am
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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 10:58pm
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Any pricing on the last two?
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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 10:58pm
post #72 of 118

that right,The margin for the cable world is incredibly high. It simply does not make sense of having cables which are costing more and more in times when the technology to produce them is becoming more advance and the production cost is keep reducing due to improvement of the technology.

hDDnd7

post #73 of 118
Thread Starter 

Forza AudioWorks Claire Hybrid

 

Forza AudioWorks isn't a new name and has been an established business known on Head-Fi for quite a long time. Matthew, from Forza came to be aware of this mini-2-mini thread and sent me back his Claire Hybrid back in September. Sadly I've neglected to give it the attention it deserved and although I did try to review it 3 times over the past 6 months I've failed to put my thoughts onto paper properly (I did find something like 3-4 random notes about it in my iCloud Notes though).

 

 

The Claire Hybrid (which isn't on the Forza Audioworks webpage yet) specs are as follows :-

 

  • 7N OCC Copper/Silver mix in a semi-Litz design.
  • 8x1 wire cable geometry
  • using gold plated switchcraft plugs (availble in Viablue option to for €20)
  • Price 89 for 5 cm cable length

 

Ergonomics

 

The cable itself is quite flexible. The braiding is uniform yet spacious to allow the cable to contort without much strain. The Switchcraft plugs are quite large and works in most cases. I do have one or two DAC/Amps where the line out/line in are recessed where the Switchcraft doesn't fit. But for the most part, it's not a big issue. I'd personally say go for the Viablue option instead.

 

Sonics

This is what we're here for and I have to admit I wasn't completely idle through the 6 months of having this IC in my possession. Ok for he first 3 months I was. And initially I didn't really give it a decent burn-in, so Matthew & I traded quite a few PMs on how I should approach this cable. I was recommended to burn this in for about hours and think I went overboard and 150 hrs continuously. I also have to admit I had a hard time trying to nail down the sonics of this cable. Each time I listened (which were weeks apart), they sounded different and I couldn't form a consistent impression of the cable. I actually blame this on my lack of focus rather than the cable itself. I'm also cautious with my reviews to listen to the same thing in the same setup each time but on different days as I do believe ears play tricks on us (at least mine does).

 

 

I'd like to stress firstly though that most of these cables don't really vary that much - especially the $90-$150 ones. They just express the same music in very subtly different ways from each other and it's merely up to each listener's preference of what they're looking for. I've done this comparison mostly with the VentureCraft V7MJ2L (7N Copper) & VentureCraft Promo cable that came with the DD (which is also a Copper/Silver mix). Both of these other cables can be found on the #1 post of this thread. Note that the VentureCraft Promo (hereafter VC Promo) is not the above picture.

 

Overall, I find that the Claire Hybrid to have a somewhat more midbass & midrange focus in comparison to the VentureCraft V7MJ2L. The instrument separation is also a little more distinct. The sub-bass of the V7MJ2L extends deeper than the Claire Hybrid but overall bass on the Claire seems a tad tighter. As for the trebles, although both seem to extend quite far and are smooth, the distinction in percussions seem to be a tad clearer & distinct in the Claire Hybrid - I'd like to think this is where the silver in the Clarie Hybrid comes into play over the V7MJ2L's pure copper. However as mentioned before, the two to me are really more similar than different. The differences (even after many hours of burn in) are slight and, for me at least, would have to listen quite hard to hear the differences.

 

As for the VC Promo cable, it's also very similar to the Claire Hybrid. Tonally I'd probably put the two to be almost equal (whereas the VM7J2L has that slight further sub-bass extension). However the Claire Hybrid seems seems to have an edge on soundstage over the VC Promo cable. The VentureCraft promo cable on the other hand has the depth imaging. The bass impact on the Claire Hybrid does seem to have a tighter punch to it. 

 

Summary

 

The Forza AudioWorks Claire Hybrid is another great product coming out of Poland. To me it's priced accordingly - in between the VC Promo cable (which was valued at $110) and the VM7J2L (which was $150 when first released, but price has changed since). It's ergonomically flexible and comfortable to use with most rigs although I'd recommend the Viablue plug instead. I think if a listener is trying to find something that's not too treble focused, not too bass focused but something a little more balanced, this cable may be able to fulfill that role.

post #74 of 118

 

The name is long and it's called a "Princess _____ _____ ________"....no idea? It made my beloved bass seem to thin out a lot at first but everything slams just fine now.

It costs 17,000 yen in Japan but I .....would never pay that. I got it much cheaper.

post #75 of 118

That pleasure received when changing from a mediocre to quality designed interconnect is sought after, but it really only occurs in the afore mention fashion, in my experience. I think people still search for that experience, but diminishing returns makes it elusive, and so the look starts to take over and mildest differences keep that initial experience alive.

 

I have good experiences with Furutech ADL, it's well designed and executed, solid performer for the portable/transportable world. They never go on special though. :(

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