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post #46 of 95
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

I've ordered the ADL mini-mini cable which is cryogenically frozen (whatever that means). So far my finding of all the copper based IEM ranging from some fancy DIY to oyadie 3.5 to some cheap 5 dollar one is sound wise they all the same however the cheaper one suffer from poor shielding and in rooms where there are lots of cable going around they will hum (the ortofon cable) where as the oyadie one is silent as it gets.

 

If I ever upgrade my IEM cable it will be for ergonomic reasons I do not see myself buying things which I have to be more careful as my own body part. 

 

Furukawa (ADL) makes good cables. They're the first company to really push OCC technology to the mainstream; but yes, like you mentioned, the biggest difference between cables is the shielding.

 

FYI, though, their new alpha-OCC is silver-plated copper, while their old PCOCC-A (that's no longer produced, which sent manufacturers like Sony, Oyaide, etc. into a massive scramble) is pure copper.

 

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post  That's just insanity.

 

Word.

post #47 of 95
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

That's just insanity.

 

You missed the very best part - a customer paid 2,588 RMB for 2-wire version while two more got the 12-wire one for 14,888 RMB a piece, ROFL and I almost laughed too hard to hurt my jaw.

 


 

Let's do the math for that ALO Reference 16 - they've got the audacity to charge "only" 4,200 RMB (or just under 700 bucks) each

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19326272112

 

And there were at least two "lucky" customers who bought that while someone could simply re-terminate one end of this $189 adapter instead:

 

http://www.aloaudio.com/reference-16-silver-copper-1-8-adapter

 

However, they could also get the entire 10' headphone cable for $979 (even sweeter deal during Black Friday / Cyber Monday) and then split that right up afterwards:

 

http://www.aloaudio.com/cables/headphone-cables/reference-16

 


 

Well, I still have to cut them some slack and show us what they've been asking for an 8-wire headphone/IEM cable with Crystal Cable Reference - 16,000 RMB or (merely?) 2,600 dollars

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19266571067

 


 

Someone visiting that shop in Shanghai did listen to IE80 with an 8-wire Crystal Cable and it's nothing less than spectacular

 

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=1420518

 


 

Another one had the opportunity to hear HD800 / ED10 with Crystal Cable Dreamline as headphone cable and that's pretty much like best thing since sliced bread

 

http://www.mingo-hmw.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=146335&page=5#pid1076843

 

That's even one grade above Ultra Diamond series, followed by Reference Diamond series

 

http://www.crystalcable.com/CMS/amfphp/services/uploads/2011891532648_Down.pdf

 
post #48 of 95
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

 

You missed the very best part - a customer paid 2,588 RMB for 2-wire version while two more got the 12-wire one for 14,888 RMB a piece, ROFL and I almost laughed too hard to hurt my jaw.

 


 

Let's do the math for that ALO Reference 16 - they've got the audacity to charge "only" 4,200 RMB (or just under 700 bucks) each

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19326272112

 

And there were at least two "lucky" customers who bought that while someone could simply re-terminate one end of this $189 adapter instead:

 

http://www.aloaudio.com/reference-16-silver-copper-1-8-adapter

 

However, they could also get the entire 10' headphone cable for $979 (even sweeter deal during Black Friday / Cyber Monday) and then split that right up afterwards:

 

http://www.aloaudio.com/cables/headphone-cables/reference-16

 


 

Well, I still have to cut them some slack and show us what they've been asking for an 8-wire headphone/IEM cable with Crystal Cable Reference - 16,000 RMB or (merely?) 2,600 dollars

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19266571067

 


 

Someone visiting that shop in Shanghai did listen to IE80 with an 8-wire Crystal Cable and it's nothing less than spectacular

 

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=1420518

 


 

Another one had the opportunity to hear HD800 / ED10 with Crystal Cable Dreamline as headphone cable and that's pretty much like best thing since sliced bread

 

http://www.mingo-hmw.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=146335&page=5#pid1076843

 

That's even one grade above Ultra Diamond series, followed by Reference Diamond series

 

http://www.crystalcable.com/CMS/amfphp/services/uploads/2011891532648_Down.pdf

 

 

that's just superb. if I was going to spend any money at all on an aftermarket headphone cable, Crystal would be it. Knowing what Crystal has done in my speaker system I would buy those cables without hesitation.

 

ALO is way overrated and expensive, imo. nowhere near the built quality of Crystal's.

post #49 of 95

wow, this died out already.

post #50 of 95
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Originally Posted by fzman View Post

wow, this died out already.
My bad. I do have a Custom Art mini-2-mini impressions next.
post #51 of 95
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

My bad. I do have a Custom Art mini-2-mini impressions next.
Nice they send you a pair.
post #52 of 95
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

Nice they send you a pair.
Just one actually smily_headphones1.gif.

I've used it and like it but not done any comparison to my other mini-2-mini. Ergonomics-wise I like its flexibility. Less concern about breakage, not such a thick gauge that its stiff, etc & a decent length for my TUR-06 amp!!
post #53 of 95
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Just one actually smily_headphones1.gif.

I've used it and like it but not done any comparison to my other mini-2-mini. Ergonomics-wise I like its flexibility. Less concern about breakage, not such a thick gauge that its stiff, etc & a decent length for my TUR-06 amp!!

How about the sound quality if u compare this with uber mini?
post #54 of 95
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How about the sound quality if u compare this with uber mini?

 

So I actually don't think that'll be too fair of a comparison as their construction content is actually quite different (and as such the price). I'm actually going to review it below and hopefully it'll shed some light on the differences.

 

Introduction to Custom Art

 

Firstly I'd like to thank Peter of Custom Art for offering me this cable to review. I offered to post it back when done but he just said I could keep it, which is truly appreciated.

 

This cable is the SilverLine of the he Custom Art series of cables. it's a 1x4, 4N Silver (99.9999%) stranded cable. More info about it here :-

http://www.thecustomart.com/cable_art-silver.php

 

The price of this particular one he sent me is 129PLN (which assuming my conversion isn't wrong, it's USD$40.80!!!??). I don't think I've come across any other cable maker that makes almost pure silver at that price level.

 

 

Sonics

 

The emphasis on the trebles of the Custom Art is noticeable due to the silver cables. They are however, not bright but still there's a slight graininess to the texture. Possibly longer burn in time could smooth out that graininess. The details they provide in the mids and upper are, to my ears, pretty much on par with the other cables I have around the $100 mark (the VentureCraft V7MJ2L, or the other VentureCraft Go-DAP promo cable). The differences between the Custom Art SliverLine over the VentureCraft are the revealing nature of SilverLine over the the other copper or copper/silver based cables. This actually works well for IEMs that are more warm by nature (e.g. the FitEar MH335DW, or TO GO! 334) but could be a tad bright for Ocharaku Kaede's (where those aforementioned copper-based ICs would probably help balance the overall FR).

 

There is somewhat less emphasis of bass on the SliverLine and that's somewhat to be expected, at least in experiences of different materials for ICs. The VentureCraft copper-based cables do have more warmth to them.

 

How does the Custom Art SliverLine compare to the Mezzo Soprano & Tralucent Uber Cables? The latter two still have an edge in the finesse and refine nature of the presentation. Whether this is actual resolution, I'm not certain yet but it does feel that the Mezzo Soprano and Tralucent Uber ICs have that fine-grained (photo terminology!!??) smoothness to the texture. In addition, the Mezzo Soprano and the Tralucent Uber ICs have that added staging presence in width and depth, over the Custom Art SilverLine IC. Bear in mind though that (assuming I didn't mess up in my currency conversion, we're talking about comparing $40 to $300-$350 cables).

 

 

Conclusion

 

I think the Custom Art SilverLine is extremely great value for money. As mentioned until now I've not come across a silver cable for such a low price. In terms of performance, if one is after a cable that's somewhat more on the revealing side, the SilverLine can probably compete with the other IC cables around the $100. However, those cables I have around the $300+ are in a league of their own.

 

For my personal use, I actually think the Custom Art Silverline could be my default cable for the above combination of VentureCraft DD 12V LE, the Analogue Squared Paper TUR-06, & FitEar TO GO! 334. The TUR-06 has a nice bass thump to it, and the TO GO! 334 is a warmish IEM. This silver cable help in improving the FR balance. It's also a longer and flexible cable in comparison to my other ICs which makes it more practical.

post #55 of 95

Thank you for your honest opinion AnakChan. Much appreciated.

 

Yes the price - ~$40 is correct.

post #56 of 95

4N purity is 99.99%,  not 99.9999% - that would be 6N.

 

Yup,  look it up - I lost the same argument not so long ago...   Not that it makes it bad, or worse, just a point of fact.

post #57 of 95
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Originally Posted by fzman View Post

4N purity is 99.99%,  not 99.9999% - that would be 6N.

 

Yup,  look it up - I lost the same argument not so long ago...   Not that it makes it bad, or worse, just a point of fact.

I didn't know what. I buy it as a 99.9999 and always though it was 4N lol

 

Do you have some materials on this?

post #58 of 95

Oh my goodness, Dreamline for real?

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19604569207

 

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post #59 of 95
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post
 

Oh my goodness, Dreamline for real?

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19604569207

 

qotQFXC.jpg

 

It's beautiful looking, but I would contact Crystal Cable first, and check to make sure it is real, and that this seller is authorized.

post #60 of 95
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post
 

Oh my goodness, Dreamline for real?

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19604569207

 

qotQFXC.jpg

One of these cables costs more than 2x UM Miracle lol

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