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post #16 of 36

Perhaps my pair was dying or something. I just couldn't take the inaccurate sound that came out of them, how there was no life in the sound. They were nowhere near the worst I have used, but comparing them to more recent purchases, I would never go back to them. Shrillness that I described was not constant, but on a note every so often. Upon listening to the Earpods by Apples, I have found them to sound similar, but of course the Shure's sound a lot better. I find they both have a far too deep bass emphasis, yet the bass is still not incredible, just a constant noise of bass that can't be felt. Mids a highly recessed, so vocals often are dead. In jazz, the music is incomplete without the mids, and the heavy bass of them makes the bass sound obnoxious, yet lacking power at the same time. Highs were average, and overall what I liked, yet the odd time there would be a note that would ring out and annoy me.

post #17 of 36
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Originally Posted by thepiper92 View Post

...Mids a highly recessed, so vocals often are dead....

I can only believe you had a faulty or counterfeit product. If Shure's IEMs are known for any tonal colouring it is for emphasising the midrange such that vocals are pronounced or forward. Recessed midrange is the opposite of what I hear with my Shure SE215. Measurements also suggest there is a problem with the pair you used. For example here is the frequency response of the SE215 alongside the Grado SR60. You can see the Shure's exaggerated bass, balanced to forward midrange and rolled off highs.

post #18 of 36

I think Hifiman RE-400 may be what the OP is looking for. I think it strikes a nice balance between extremely clear and fast Etymotics and something warm and musical like Shures. RE-400 combines the best of both worlds - a warm, inviting tone with a present, punchy bass and an enveloping soundstage, plus excellent speed, precision, clarity, resolution and overall accuracy. It is not as extremely clear and accurate as the HF5, but sufficiently close, so that after listening to RE-400 for a while, you will likely forget about the difference. It's only in direct AB comparison that I notice RE-400 giving up in accuracy to HF5. However, compared to the Shure line, RE-400 easily surpasses SE215 in sound quality and is more on the level of SE425 or even SE535 actually IMO.

post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

.... RE-400 easily surpasses SE215 in sound quality and is more on the level of SE425 or even SE535 actually IMO.

 

And all for a just a hundred bucks.    Just got mine a few days ago.    It's got to be the best "bang for the buck" IEM on the market.

post #20 of 36

Guys can't contain yourselves with the RE-400, spilling over into other threads. It's taken over the GR-07 as the invading flavor of the month. wink.gif

post #21 of 36

Hi guys, in my country the HF5 is quite pricey, about US$200, is it still worthy the asking price, or I have to look for something else in this price if I'm searching for the accurate, detail revealing & good separation IEMs?
 

post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by bass fan View Post

 I'm searching for the accurate, detail revealing & good separation IEMs?
 

 

RE-400's?

post #23 of 36
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Originally Posted by lwien View Post

 

RE-400's?


Hi lwien, thanks for the quick reply, i've tried the HE-400 on some headphone store, i don't know why, but i don't like how it  sound, it doesn't feel balanced to me, i feel something wrong with the sound, the RE-Zero sound better to my ears.

post #24 of 36

I've tried both these iems and I'd say the hf5 is a fair bit better when it comes to overall sound quality. The shures have a kind of more muffled sound, alot of emphasis on bass but not amazing detail.  The hfs do lack bass and colour somewhat though but it's something you might adjust too. I have he hf5s at the moment and cant decide if I should get something a bit more bassy. I'd definitely go with the hf5s out of the 2 though.
 

post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by Vimes View PostThe hfs do lack bass and colour somewhat...

 

I think the opposite about coloration. hf5 is far away from any kind of coloration.

 

If you want bass and detail, then go with fxt90. details not in par with hf5, but at least bass is there. I don't think there is an IEM in hf5's price range that can beat it in terms of detail and imaging.

post #26 of 36

Think maybe you misread, I meant they don't have  any colour, a very neutral sound. What are the fxt90's like build construction and reliability wise do you know?
 

post #27 of 36
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Originally Posted by julian67 View Post


I can only believe you had a faulty or counterfeit product. If Shure's IEMs are known for any tonal colouring it is for emphasising the midrange such that vocals are pronounced or forward. Recessed midrange is the opposite of what I hear with my Shure SE215. Measurements also suggest there is a problem with the pair you used. For example here is the frequency response of the SE215 alongside the Grado SR60. You can see the Shure's exaggerated bass, balanced to forward midrange and rolled off highs.


I must have had a bad pair. When I first bought them I like them, but they quickly became distasteful in a matter of months. The build quality was solid, unlike Klipsch S4's

post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by Vimes View Post

Think maybe you misread, I meant they don't have  any colour, a very neutral sound. What are the fxt90's like build construction and reliability wise do you know?
 

You are right, I misread. Cable quality is excellent on fxt90. And no microphonics. But some users report about quality issues with housing and R/L balance. housing isn't light. So when dropping on a hard surface crack or break are possible.

post #29 of 36

Sound interesting but I'm guessing the warranty is a year if any. Just gonna say to op, I just listened to the shures again after listening to hf5 for last day, and at first there's a  very welcome mount of base, but listen for a bit longer, bass aside they just don't compare, they are muffled in comparison and vocals are recessed the instruments are no where near as clear. I wouldn't recommend them. I don't know why they have so many good reviews to be honest. Very comfortable though I'll say that.

post #30 of 36

If you listen to a lot of contemporary music 215 is the way to go. 

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