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post #991 of 2673
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


Keeping it in the Emotiva family sounds like a good plan. I hear that DAC is pretty good overall, especially for the price.

 

although... I can't help but recommending the Concero cuz it's just so damn awesome. haha.

 

I would consider the Concero for a secondary setup, maybe just for computer alone. The lack of features, especially balanced output is just a no-go, especially for connecting to multiple things at once without having to keep unplugging stuff.

post #992 of 2673
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

 

2. We're going back and forth on two gain stages. Ragnarok is modular, so we can swap out gain stages and compare them. The one we've been running is very, very good, but we have one we think is better. I don't want to ship a Ragnarok that isn't as good as it possibly can be, so if we can work out some operational oddities with the better one, that's what I want to ship it with.

 

Hi,

just read the forum... lots of info.

what struck me was this comment.

is there (oh please, oh please, oh please) a tiny possibility that one could choose the gain stage when buying this amp? like you recommend number 1, but you also sell number 2 and 3.

you know, matching with different headpones? tonality shifts and so on.. kind of like tube/opamp rolling, but with modules supplied by you?

post #993 of 2673
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I'm bummed it has no 2 x 3 pin XLR's. Seems like that would be the norm. The Feng Shui is nice in the "picts", however. I'd still rather not buy another converter.

 

After searching this thread to see if there was any movement on this, I was curious if anyone could comment whether or not the 4-pin XLR for connector is a done deal?  I have a Cardas Clear w/ 2x 3-pin XLRs that I'd have to get reterminated or buy an adaptor for, etc.

 

...If I had all the money back I've spent on cables and adaptors...

post #994 of 2673
The norm is 4pin and has been for years now. 2x3pin was wasteful and a poor decision by Headroom who made the first commercial balanced amp.
post #995 of 2673

I don't deny that 2x3pin XLRs are excessive, especially when I try and carefully wrap up my Cardas Clear and they end up banging together anyways.

 

I don't really profess any in depth knowledge of HPAs (or the industry in general), other'n owning several high end components, so I don't really get the impression that 4pin has overtaken 3 pin in the full-size arena.

 

So I didn't think it was unfair to ask, considering there are a lot of amps out that offer the 2x3pin and the 1x4pin.  I realize less is more, generally speaking in high-end audio, but was curious.  As it turns out, it's only $60 + shipping, according to a Cardas rep. I spoke with, so it's not awful, but this was something I was curious was firm or not for the final design.

 

I guess knowing that the industry is moving towards the 4pin standard is good news, except there's now at least mini XLR, full size XLR, and what I think is referred to as the ALO connector, so hopefully the only thing driving the connector choice in the future is form factor.

post #996 of 2673
Most amps that offer 2x3 only have it as a sort of legacy support. Like how for a long time after USB became dominant most motherboards still had serial ports. I bet most would love to have just a 4pin and one (or more) TRS. There's always those few guys who spent a ton on 3pins that keep them using dedicated 3pin sockets or the wonky combo jacks. Some manufacturers have gone 4pin only and more will follow.
post #997 of 2673
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

The norm is 4pin and has been for years now. 2x3pin was wasteful and a poor decision by Headroom who made the first commercial balanced amp.

 

Totally agree. However, I think at the time, it was far more readily available than the 4-pin variant so the decision wasn't all that poor, imo.

post #998 of 2673
4pin XLR has been around for a long time. It isn't only used for headphones. wink.gif
post #999 of 2673
There were around, it just seems to me 3-pins were more widely used at the time as studios/concerts/etc. often run 1 channel at a time rather than going with stereo pairs.

Anyhow, it is a shame that some of the nicer *looking* plugs out there are 3-pin only. Some say plugs make a difference to sq, i don't know, personally...
post #1000 of 2673

Hey Jason, just wondering if you could comment on the following USB related queries as we wait for the Yggy to ship :P

- Does the Yggy draw power from the external USB source at all? Or is there a dedicated USB power supply internally.

- Is the incoming USB signal circuitry isolated from the rest of the DAC circuitry - e.g. USB ground wire from external source galvanically isolated from rest of DAC.

- Will you be using the XMOS chip for decoding USB data?

 

Just curious as the above seem to be relevant attributes to how a DAC sounds from USB based on my limited research so far.

post #1001 of 2673

Ive been considering the ragnarok and the Yddgrasil a bit more seriously now that i got myself some focal chorus speakers (714), but i am wondering if Rag/Yddg wont be overkill for that and my HE-400...

Perhaps you need something like focal utopia and HD800 to actually notice the difference (after all, at very high prices sound quality does not improve as massivly as in the mid-fi area).

post #1002 of 2673
^ Yeah, sounds like you need to wait for some reviews with your level of equipment - preferably after the hype has died down. Talking months yet...

The better you get to know your preferences and which of the (many) subtleties matter to you, small differences can be 'big'. I guess that's why high prices are sometimes worth it.
post #1003 of 2673

Yeah, I'm hoping the DAC has a depraved USB implementation that obviates the need for any other source or converters.

post #1004 of 2673
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Yeah, I'm hoping the DAC has a depraved USB implementation that obviates the need for any other source or converters.

Huh? Why would you want that?
post #1005 of 2673

Is there any information on the "voicing" of the Rag compared to the Mjolnir? I think it's fairly well-accepted that the Mjolnir is a bit forward, and I've found it pairs very well with dark/warm headphones and not so much with brighter cans. The Rag is using the same topology as the Mjolnir, right? Should we expect something like a multi-featured Mjolnir or a more versatile amp that plays well with some of the brighter headphones? What headphones has Schiit been using to test the Rag?

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