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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

I'd add that I believe the target was a headphone amp that will drive ANY (non 'stat) headphone and desktop speakers.  One post, Jason mentioned using Mini Maggies as at least one of the desktop speaker systems in the development.

 

 

The Mini Maggies love power.   I'm currently running mine with Gungnir into a BAT VK-5i into a Crown XLS1500 with 525w/ch @ 4ohms.  It will be interesting to hear how the Ragnarok compares.

 


Edited by mhamel - 12/5/13 at 9:26pm
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The Mini Maggies love power.   I'm currently running mine with Gungnir into a BAT VK-5i into a Crown XLS1500 with 525w/ch @ 4ohms.  It will be interesting to hear how the Ragnarok compares.

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Well, your Maggies are not starved for power, for sure!  I'm driving mine with a Parasound HCA-1000A.  Its only rated at 200 W RMS into 4 ohms, but will do a bit better on short peaks...

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I'm planning on getting a new DAC for my Soloist soon but I can't decide whether to get the Gungnir or wait for the Yggdrasil...

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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

Well, your Maggies are not starved for power, for sure!  I'm driving mine with a Parasound HCA-1000A.  Its only rated at 200 W RMS into 4 ohms, but will do a bit better on short peaks...

The problem with maggies or martin logan is they cost a kings randsom in energy bill if you use them often (and if i had those id probably use them very often).

 

I was actually saving for a Magnepan MG12, but after checking the power they need to be at their full potencial, i decided id probably go for something more normal like B&W, Audio Monitor, Wharfedale or Focal (probably Focal). Id love to be able to afford something as cool as Magnepan or Martin Logan but its out of my reach 8(.

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The problem with maggies or martin logan is they cost a kings randsom in energy bill if you use them often (and if i had those id probably use them very often).

 

I was actually saving for a Magnepan MG12, but after checking the power they need to be at their full potencial, i decided id probably go for something more normal like B&W, Audio Monitor, Wharfedale or Focal (probably Focal). Id love to be able to afford something as cool as Magnepan or Martin Logan but its out of my reach 8.

 

First sorry for derailing this thread...

 

I am not sure about strictly class A amps, but this isn't applicable to high bias class AB amps.  Seeing as the MG12's have the same power requirements as my mini maggies, I thought it would be prudent to find out how much my maggies were costing me in electricity bill. After a quick email I was informed that my high bias class AB amp consumes the same amount of energy as a 150 watt light bulb.  Then using this site...

 

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html

 

...w/ my through the roof manhattan electricity cost, I calculated about 10 dollars a month for my amp to be on 24/7.

 

Sure the $2400 A21 won't take the MG12's to their full potential, but its already more than twice the cost of the speaker. Then with regard to martin logans, the story is even more promising as they are much more efficient.  Here is a quote directly from martin logan's site... 

 

"No. A pair of MartinLogan electrostats will draw about 5 watts maximum. There is circuitry to turn off the static charge when not in use; however, actual consumption will remain close to the same. The primary purpose of the sensing circuitry is to prevent dust collection on the electrostatic element."

 

Long story short, Magnepan's and Martin Logan's are amazing values and people shouldn't be afraid of the cost of their respective required components.


Edited by rrahman - 12/9/13 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by rrahman View Post
 

 

First sorry for derailing this thread...

 

I am not sure about strictly class A amps, but this isn't applicable to high bias class AB amps.  Seeing as the MG12's have the same power requirements as my mini maggies, I thought it would be prudent to find out how much my maggies were costing me in electricity bill. After a quick email I was informed that my high bias class AB amp consumes the same amount of energy as a 150 watt light bulb.  Then using this site...

 

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html

 

...w/ my through the roof manhattan electricity cost, I calculated about 10 dollars a month for my amp to be on 24/7.

 

Sure the $2400 A21 won't take the MG12's to their full potential, but its already more than twice the cost of the speaker. Then with regard to martin logans, the story is even more promising as they are much more efficient.  Here is a quote directly from martin logan's site... 

 

"No. A pair of MartinLogan electrostats will draw about 5 watts maximum. There is circuitry to turn off the static charge when not in use; however, actual consumption will remain close to the same. The primary purpose of the sensing circuitry is to prevent dust collection on the electrostatic element."

 

Long story short, Magnepan's and Martin Logan's are amazing values and people shouldn't be afraid of the cost of their respective required components.

 

 

The Peachtree 220 amp puts out 200wpc into 8 ohms and 400wpc into 4 (like Maggies). 

 

It's selling now for $999.    You'll need a pre-amp, of course.  

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Oh ye, Id better move this somewhere else. Shiit, so easy to get off track :D.

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Do anyone know when these are expected to be out?
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Do anyone know when these are expected to be out?

Read the thread at least a little . . .

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The question may have been intended sociologically. What are popular expectations of when Rag and Yggi will be out, as opposed to when Jason & Mike plan or intend them to be out?

For this a poll would be best. It would help pass the time as well.
post #911 of 2659

Sorry all..

 

If i could hijack for 1 post...

I use the nearly ubiquitous Gungnir / Mjolnir /LCD 2.2 combo to listen now, but I can not put the amp near enough to reach. I'm begging Jason and Mike to consider a remote they consider workable. Short of that, do any win 7 music players have decent volume control? It seems an after sight in Music Bee.Thanks.

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Sorry all..

 

If i could hijack for 1 post...

I use the nearly ubiquitous Gungnir / Mjolnir /LCD 2.2 combo to listen now, but I can not put the amp near enough to reach. I'm begging Jason and Mike to consider a remote they consider workable. Short of that, do any win 7 music players have decent volume control? It seems an after sight in Music Bee.Thanks.

I like what the Geek Pulse do with the remote control. They include an IR port so their amp/dac is ready for Apple remote control.

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Quick update on Ragnarok:

 

1. Humming transformers: solved. Now it's 6 weeks for production. That will likely be the pacing item.

 

2. Metal: I'll know today, but I'm hopeful. Will update again as soon as I see the new first articles. Expect 4-6 weeks on that.

 

3. Gain stage: we're building the latest iteration of both the older stage and the new current-feedback "pivot point" stage and will know this weekend which way we're going. I'll update you on the results on Monday.

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I hope Ragnarok will have a perfect synergy with HD 800. Please. :) :) :)

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Update: metal (aluminum) looks good! Now, if it matches the steel, we're a go on metal. 

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