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post #2311 of 9301
Id really like to see Schiit come out with a solid state in the Lyr-Valhalla price range. Above Asgard, below Mjolnir. I just don't know what they'd do to make it different than what's out there besides being a great deal, a convenient form factor, etc. I don't mind tubes but something with more power than the Asgard, but not as expensive and all-balanced as Mjolnir. Maybe taking the Magni design and blowing it up? I could see that design, given more space being a really killer product in the 4-600 dollar range. Again, I don't think it's likely, but it's be nice to see. Some of us just want solid state love... : (
post #2312 of 9301
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

Id really like to see Schiit come out with a solid state in the Lyr-Valhalla price range. Above Asgard, below Mjolnir. I just don't know what they'd do to make it different than what's out there besides being a great deal, a convenient form factor, etc. I don't mind tubes but something with more power than the Asgard, but not as expensive and all-balanced as Mjolnir. Maybe taking the Magni design and blowing it up? I could see that design, given more space being a really killer product in the 4-600 dollar range. Again, I don't think it's likely, but it's be nice to see. Some of us just want solid state love... : (

 

 Lyr can still be considered solid state in a sense.

 

If you want pure solid state, go for the Mjolnir.

post #2313 of 9301

I think Asgard is as good as it gets. Why'd you need more power? If you have expensive orthos, chances are - you have enough money to blow on a more expensive amp like Mjolnir, it's not really compact like A2, though... At the same time, A2 is more than capable for most orthos out there.

post #2314 of 9301
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

I see a lot of fear, uncertainty, doubt in your words :D

 

Based on Schiit Lyr (From my personal experience) at $450 I was comparing it head-to-head vs Leben CS600 in a local meet I organized a little while back. Leben CS600 ($5000 or so) is also a tube (but not hybrid) but also a speaker amp, and while people really love it for its warmth, and I can clearly say that Leben CS600 was warmer and perhaps a little more lush, Lyr was very close to it.

 

Schiit can pull this one, Mjolnir has been compared to dedicated headphones amp such as Bryston BHA-1 at about double the price of the Mjolnir, best bang for buck would be Mjolnir, for some even better than Bryston BHA-1 (I bet i'd fall in this category, since I don't like the "Treble Extension" that BHA-1 provides...)

 

I don't doubt for a second that Ragnarok wouldn't eat every other amp available today in terms of ultimate fidelity. Sure you could get a different sound signature from other products... Actually high-end is mostly a fight for different sound signature. But if engineering plays a role at all, Schiit got it nailed.

 

Well that's blind faith if ever I heard it  :rolleyes: 


Edited by nigeljames - 6/24/14 at 7:48am
post #2315 of 9301

Fanboy-in-waiting.

post #2316 of 9301

The Ragnarok has tough competition. For many - it'll simply have to be on par with the GS-X or it's a bust.

 

And let's not also forget the Master 9.

post #2317 of 9301
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The Ragnarok has tough competition. For many - it'll simply have to be on par with the GS-X or it's a bust.

 

And let's not also forget the Master 9.

You don't think there'll be a slight discount given the price differential?

 

Edit: I've heard that the GS-X mk2 is like hearing the music a few rows back as against the Schiit Mjolinir which is front row. Hence, I expect similar views but that's OK. Its the other features that will pique one's interest.


Edited by kothganesh - 6/24/14 at 8:46am
post #2318 of 9301
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

You don't think there'll be a slight discount given the price differential?

Nope.

post #2319 of 9301
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Originally Posted by jacal01 View Post
 

Fanboy-in-waiting.

 

Not really, I just believe in them cause Lyr has proven itself to be a very capable amplifier.

Based on this personal experience and Others reviews of Schiit products, their engineering is top notch, and I'd have trouble believing that they can't keep up with their latest and greatest, especially when they said there won't be anything higher-end than Ragnarok, that means they 'at least' have to match other amps. Also with all of the delay, they are doing everything they can to make these words into a reality.

post #2320 of 9301
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

The Ragnarok has tough competition. For many - it'll simply have to be on par with the GS-X or it's a bust.

 

I tend to favor the Bakoon HPA-21 and other current driven amplifiers (Krell Phantom III, Questyle CMA800R) for their minimum distortion crystal clarity and rapid transient response.  I'm not sure how the Ragnarok would stack up against those.  Maybe on timbre.

 

The legendary Nelson Pass First Watt F1 amp was also a current driven (transconductance) design.


Edited by jacal01 - 6/24/14 at 10:13am
post #2321 of 9301
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Originally Posted by jacal01 View Post
 

 

I tend to favor the Bakoon HPA-21 and other current driven amplifiers (Krell Phantom III, Questyle CMA800R) for their minimum distortion cystal clarity and rapid transient response.  I'm not sure how the Ragnarok would stack up against those.  Maybe on timbre.

 

The legendary Nelson Pass First Watt F1 amp was also a current driven (transconductance) design.

 

Well, if Ragnarok can at least match Bakoon HPA-21 it could be an ultimate winner, for not having to use a battery and unlimited time for listening :D

post #2322 of 9301

The CMA800R is maybe the clearest of them all, in the same price range, and can be stacked monoblock style for dual mono balanced output.

 

EDIT:  To be fair, I'm actually contemplating getting a Ragnarok to replace my speaker amp, which is a space heater disguised as a Class A SET tube amp.  Living in a top floor apartment in Houston during the summer, the radiant heat from that thing is palpable.  Not that that is the real reason for the replacement; I'm actually drinking the Schiit kool-aid here a little bit, thinking that it could be a potential upgrade at that position.

 

Plus I'll be getting an additional headphone jack; can't have too many of those things...  :wink:


Edited by jacal01 - 6/24/14 at 1:32pm
post #2323 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

 

Not gonna happen.

 

See the post above about audiophila nervosa increasing exponentially with cost. We're here to have fun, not serve as proxy psychologists. Low-cost products are fun. High-cost products tend to attract the nutters who need 2 hours of phone time per day to help justify their purchase. 

 

We don't give one single schiit about what some self-appointed Keepers of What Is Right and Pure think about our prices or our name. They're losing out. But we're winning by not having them as customers. As I've told the press more than once, the name is an excellent "butthead filter." If someone doesn't have a sense of humor, they're probably not going to consider our products. And that, believe me, is absolutely fine by us.

 

There will be nothing above Ragnarok and Yggdrasil. Period.

 

Nor another company making overpriced "audiophile jewelry." Period.

 

Clear?

 

Wow...I never read and probably never read about better commitment than this. 

post #2324 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 

 

Not gonna happen.

 

See the post above about audiophila nervosa increasing exponentially with cost. We're here to have fun, not serve as proxy psychologists. Low-cost products are fun. High-cost products tend to attract the nutters who need 2 hours of phone time per day to help justify their purchase. 

 

We don't give one single schiit about what some self-appointed Keepers of What Is Right and Pure think about our prices or our name. They're losing out. But we're winning by not having them as customers. As I've told the press more than once, the name is an excellent "butthead filter." If someone doesn't have a sense of humor, they're probably not going to consider our products. And that, believe me, is absolutely fine by us.

 

There will be nothing above Ragnarok and Yggdrasil. Period.

 

Nor another company making overpriced "audiophile jewelry." Period.

 

Clear?


This is why I buy your Schiit.  Plus it sounds pretty good.  :)

post #2325 of 9301

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So act now.  PM me for more details.  :)


Edited by Ableza - 6/24/14 at 6:38pm
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