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post #1981 of 9301
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Originally Posted by madwolfa View Post

And I would be able to plug in my HD650 if I need to.. kinda hesitant to buy a separate headphone amp for a living room.

Lots of integrateds have headphone jacks...the nice thing about Rags is that it's designed with headphones in mind...they are not an afterthought.
post #1982 of 9301

To get 95dB at 3m with a 89dB/W/m speaker, you need a 360W amp (with 10dB amplifier headroom for peaks).

 

And you need a 20-30dB headroom for percussion instruments - meaning NO clipping on percussion at a normal 85dB volume level - as in high fidelity.

 

You need a 97dB/W/m speaker to get the same with the Ragnarok - or you need to listen closer, at 2m the sensitivity required is 93dB/W/m.

 

And let me tell you, real instruments - they're bloody loud! :D


Edited by eugenius - 6/6/14 at 5:50am
post #1983 of 9301

A good question for Jason, with that much power, how many headphones can be on at the same time? I know there are 2 outputs on the front and there's a few more on the back, but simultaneously how many would work well? :D

post #1984 of 9301

It's a good thing I have a smallish listening room :biggrin:. That much power into my 86db m/w Thiel cs1.5's in my room would have me screaming. My little Creek integrated amp provides more than enough volume in my room with my listening requirements. 95db continuous... That's awful loud (for me anyway).

post #1985 of 9301

What DAC are people planning on using with the Ragnarok since the Yggrasil will not come out at the same time?

post #1986 of 9301
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Originally Posted by JohnBal View Post
 

It's a good thing I have a smallish listening room :biggrin:. That much power into my 86db m/w Thiel cs1.5's in my room would have me screaming. My little Creek integrated amp provides more than enough volume in my room with my listening requirements. 95db continuous... That's awful loud (for me anyway).

 

With your 50W? Creek, the maximum volume without clipped percussion transients is 77dB at 2m. Some people consider 77dB loud though, that's about twice as loud as normal speech ... I suppose a real concert would frighten them. :)

 

In the nearfield though (1.2m) the Ragnarok is enough for 85dB with 20dB headroom. So it's an uber level desktop amplifier for normal 89dB/W/m speakers or an uber level room amplifier with people with very efficient speakers and large rooms or efficient speakers in small rooms. But that remote ... :)


Edited by eugenius - 6/6/14 at 6:14am
post #1987 of 9301
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post

A good question for Jason, with that much power, how many headphones can be on at the same time? I know there are 2 outputs on the front and there's a few more on the back, but simultaneously how many would work well? biggrin.gif

What? Have we seen the same pictures? confused_face_2.gif
post #1988 of 9301
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Originally Posted by eugenius View Post
 

 

With your 50W? Creek, the maximum volume without clipped percussion transients is 77dB at 2m. Some people consider 77dB loud though, that's about twice as loud as normal speech ... I suppose a real concert would frighten them. :)

Yes. Actually Creek specs it at 85Wpc into 8 ohms (19.3dBW), 120Wpc into 4 ohms (17.8dBW). Plenty enough for me. Concerts don't usually frighten me. I see maybe 3 or 4 a year. I listen to my system frequently. If I listened at that volume every day, I think I might regret it in 5 or 10 years. I enjoy music enough, and value my hearing enough, to not want hearing loss. That is a fear of mine.

post #1989 of 9301

You can listen all day at 80dB, about eight hours a day at 85dB and about 50min a day at 95dB. Halve that just to be on the safe side.

 

Warning headphone users, it's pretty easy to go over this with the Ragnarok. :)


Edited by eugenius - 6/6/14 at 6:24am
post #1990 of 9301
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Originally Posted by eugenius View Post

You can listen all day at 80dB, about eight hours a day at 85dB and about 50min a day at 95dB. Warning headphone users, it's pretty easy to go over this with the Ragnarok. smily_headphones1.gif

I'm curious...most every post you make in this thread seems to present reasons why the Ragnarok isn't a good choice. We get it. It's not for you. Why do you feel the need hotel everyone else it's not for them?
post #1991 of 9301
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Originally Posted by leesure View Post


I'm curious...most every post you make in this thread seems to present reasons why the Ragnarok isn't a good choice. We get it. It's not for you. Why do you feel the need hotel everyone else it's not for them?

 

I have to say, that wasn't an uber level post. :D Try again.

post #1992 of 9301
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

What DAC are people planning on using with the Ragnarok since the Yggrasil will not come out at the same time?

 

I guess Gungnir would still be a good choice.

post #1993 of 9301
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Originally Posted by leesure View Post


I'm curious...most every post you make in this thread seems to present reasons why the Ragnarok isn't a good choice. We get it. It's not for you. Why do you feel the need hotel everyone else it's not for them?

I know why I did that: I cant afford it :D.

post #1994 of 9301

I just enjoy bothering people with numbers. They hate numbers so much ...   As soon as they hear dB they lose wood. :)

post #1995 of 9301
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post

What DAC are people planning on using with the Ragnarok since the Yggrasil will not come out at the same time?
Gungnir
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