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Originally Posted by Chris J

When one plate of a capacitor is at X Volts and the other plate is at -X volts, then between two plates of a capacitor you get an electric field.
You sound like a physicist, not an Engineer.
No...when one plate of the capacitor has Q charge, the other plate is at -Q charge (charge is commonly referred to with the letter "Q" or "q"). You would measure the voltage across the capacitor. Voltage is always measured between two points. In order to measure a positive voltage at one plate and a negative at the other, you would have to (somehow) measure right in the middle of the capacitor, inside the dielectric.

And engineering is just the application of science. We just get to call things "close enough for practical purposes" and skip some of the nastier math, which is why EE's use Voltage to begin with (as opposed to working EM-fields for everything).
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Originally Posted by TwoEars

The bigger question is what an electron, and an electric field, really is.

We know it's a subatomic particle. We now we like to think of it as "negative". And we now we like to build little highways for our electrons, called circuits, and by letting them whizz around there we can do all kinds of fancy stuff like heat up wires (lightbulb, owen) or induce magnetic fields to move things around (speakers, motors).

But is it really "negative". Positive and negative are just words which we've attached to a phenomena to make it easier to think about it. But what is an electron really? And why should that little bastard over there be attracted to some other little thing there, called a proton, which we like to think of as "positive"?

Riddle me this... riddle me that....

Like with so many things in science we don't know the why, but we observe and create our little theorems thinking that we've understood something.

And every once in a while some human comes along and builds an amplifier and listens to barbie girl, but hey such is life.

(I think I should call it a night already, I've clearly had enough of my trippy pills)
You sound sleepy, lol.

The real trick about science is whether or not it is useful. Specifically, whether or not we can make predictions. I think science and engineering has given you a hobby that you love, and you ought to respect it
Edited by superjawes - 5/8/14 at 4:03am

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Originally Posted by superjawes

No...when one plate of the capacitor has Q charge, the other plate is at -Q charge (charge is commonly referred to with the letter "Q" or "q"). You would measure the voltage across the capacitor. Voltage is always measured between two points. In order to measure a positive voltage at one plate and a negative at the other, you would have to (somehow) measure right in the middle of the capacitor, inside the dielectric.

You're agreeing with me and arguing with me at the same time.
When one plate is at one potential and the other plate is at another potential then you have positive charge on one and negative charge on the other one.
Too theoretical, too pedantic, not practical enough.
Edited by Chris J - 5/8/14 at 4:12am

Nice first impressions Jude.

Very pleased to hear the Rag works well with the HD800's but disappointed to hear it is only marginally (if at all) better than the EF-6 as my M6 easily bested the EF-6 with the HE-6's ( and some other phones) especially given the large power improvements.

Looking forward to more impressions now.

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Originally Posted by Chris J

You're agreeing with me and arguing with me at the same time.
When one plate is at one potential and the other plate is at another potential then you have positive charge on one and negative charge on the other one.
Too theoretical, too pedantic, not practical enough.
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Originally Posted by Chris J

When one plate of a capacitor is at X Volts and the other plate is at -X volts, then between two plates of a capacitor you get an electric field.
You sound like a physicist, not an Engineer.
Your explanation keeps changing...

I'm just impressed that Jude took the opportunity to use "priapism. " Probably a first for a review/impression on Head-fi.

Wonder how many people had to look it up...

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Originally Posted by 45longcolt

I'm just impressed that Jude took the opportunity to use "priapism. " Probably a first for a review/impression on Head-fi.

Wonder how many people had to look it up...

"The Ragnarok isn't for everyone. Consult your doctor before using Ragnarok. Warning: extended use of Ragnarok may cause priapism in certain men."

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Originally Posted by 45longcolt

I'm just impressed that Jude took the opportunity to use "priapism. " Probably a first for a review/impression on Head-fi.

Wonder how many people had to look it up...

I had to look it up and... well....

It is not natural for a man who isn't a doctor to have that word in his vocabulary. End of story.

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Originally Posted by jchandler3

"The Ragnarok isn't for everyone. Consult your doctor before using Ragnarok. Warning: extended use of Ragnarok may cause priapism in certain men."

Need the emergency button for "Help, I have gotten up and can't fall down..."

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Originally Posted by jude

[snip] And this brings me to my in-a-nutshell description of the Ragnarok’s sound signature, in consideration of the headphones I’ve tried with it so far: though there’s a smoothness to its delivery, it is not a romantic sounding amp. The Schiit Audio Ragnarok is neutral and dazzlingly revealing of the music you feed it. It’s capable of lifting veils you may not have known were there, and scaring away the discordant sounds of bad pairings with a few headphones that have earned reputations for being very challenging mates. When it does these things—when it allows the great headphones to be great—it’s capable of helping convey some pretty heady high-end Summit-Fi sound.

Actually, I like romantic, as long as it's still taut and revealing.  Usually there's a pretty hefty price tag associated with it, tho.

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Originally Posted by TwoEars

No, it's no I'm afraid ;)

Current is flow of electrons (as I'm sure you know) but torque is a force, a twisting force to be precise.

The SI unit for torque is Nm (newton meter). It is the amount of rotating force you get when you apply 1N to a 1m long rod.

1N in turn is the same as 1 kg*m/s².

That is to say it is the force required to accelerate 1kg at a rate of 1m/s.

All very interesting I'm sure

I'm sure you can tie the equation to make it fit.  Think of RPM as Frequency, and you can find torque based off of horsepower equation hp = (torque * rpm) / 5252 :)  Then you can say the Ragnarok is and x horsepower amp lol.

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Originally Posted by TwoEars

I had to look it up and... well....

It is not natural for a man who isn't a doctor to have that word in his vocabulary. End of story.

Hmm, I feel compelled to defend those of us who know our minor Greek deities..

The etymology of the word, descended from the god; Priapus or Priapos as he was known...

Holy heck I haven't laughed that hard in a while.  All hail the fertility god, Priapus!

The picture is hysterical!

I'm inclined to agree...

The second picture down is something very special indeed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priapus

I'm not adverse to this kind of humor you know. I think I was just taken aback a bit by the ever so correct Jude using the word erectile in the second sentance of the ragnarok impressions. I didn't exactly see that coming when I started reading.

Normally not even Bill Clinton moves that fast.

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Originally Posted by superjawes

Your explanation keeps changing...

24 hours later it occurs to me:

1.  you may be right, depends on your viewpoint, you sound like a guy who wrote those exams 30 months ago.  I wrote them 39 years ago and I've forgotten most of my electromagnetic field theory.

But I didn't need it at work yesterday, didn't need it today and I probably won't need it tomorrow, either. So I'm OK with it.

2.  you are no doubt aware that all the other guys on this thread think we are a pair of arrogant, pedantic posturing jackasses, right? They are ignoring our posts, BTW.

3.  Cease and desist. The mods will step in and delete our posts for being off topic (which they are) and censure us both for derailing the thread.

4.  If you really want to keep talking about this, we can take it elsewhere, but what would be the point? Electromagneitc field theory is what it is, and us arguing about it won't change it. So what's the point?

5.   Do you even remember the point of our discussion? Who cares anymore? I don't. Neither should you. I'm sure you don't, you're not that stupid.

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Originally Posted by Eee Pee

Holy heck I haven't laughed that hard in a while.  All hail the fertility god, Priapus!

The picture is hysterical!

You haven't laughed all that hard in a while?

I won't even touch that...

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