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post #1531 of 9301
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You certainly may :D

 

Jetlive have the Taurus at 45K baht atm, per their website:

 

http://www.jetliveaudio.com/index.php?mo=29&keyword=Auralic

 

I'll be using the usual 'Sir, what's the cash price on this combination ?' negotiation technique, but from where I'm sitting that looks like a very good price for the Taurus. 

hmmm, that's a very nice price. can someone tell me if there are different voltage models, or a single model that does 110/220V...i know thailand uses 220V...

post #1532 of 9301
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Originally Posted by kugino View Post
 

hmmm, that's a very nice price. can someone tell me if there are different voltage models, or a single model that does 110/220V...i know thailand uses 220V...

 

I really wish ALL electronic products these days would be 110-240V compatible. Just look at computers and laptop PSU's. It can be done.

 

It's a global world and while changing the main grid of a country may be too late we can at least make sure that all products work everywhere.

post #1533 of 9301
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post

I really wish ALL electronic products these days would be 110-240V compatible. Just look at computers and laptop PSU's. It can be done.

It's a global world and while changing the main grid of a country may be too late we can at least make sure that all products work everywhere.

Haha not quite as easy to do that on audio equipment unless you're using switchers which is frowned upon by most audiophiles. In a switcher it's pretty easy to have universal power support. In a linear supply like most of our audio equipment it requires adding an additional primary on the transformer
post #1534 of 9301
In Thailand, some Asian product prices are pretty good, predictably. Not crazy cheap, but comparable to what you'd find in the US.

For certain things which include Schiit products, Singaporean distributors sell to Thai dealers at silly prices while they can actually get taxes back when they re-export the goods. I suspect it's the same between Singapore and Malaysia. It's crazy that a city state is a main distributor to populations something like 20x larger. I know we probably look like crazy pants-less-3rd-world-swinging-between-trees backwards but Fed-Ex delivers here from the US too, so i don't see the reason for going through the middle-man who does precisely nothing. May be i'm not clued up on international distribution enough to understand...

As for voltages, is multiple voltages really a bad thing for sq? I see Oppo uses that on their player and i think Benchmark also. If it is, may be make it "configurable" like on the Fostex DAC/Amp? (Remove cover, unplug and re-plug wires.)
post #1535 of 9301
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

Haha not quite as easy to do that on audio equipment unless you're using switchers which is frowned upon by most audiophiles. In a switcher it's pretty easy to have universal power support. In a linear supply like most of our audio equipment it requires adding an additional primary on the transformer

It's easy peasy. Many many power transformers are available with dual primaries. They're wired in parallel for 110 and series for 220. IEC inlets can be had with built-in switches for voltage selection. Some manufacturers though want to avoid user-selectable mains voltage though because plugging a piece of gear set for 110 into a 220 outlet can be potentially disastrous.

se
post #1536 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post


It's easy peasy. Many many power transformers are available with dual primaries. They're wired in parallel for 110 and series for 220. IEC inlets can be had with built-in switches for voltage selection. Some manufacturers though want to avoid user-selectable mains voltage though because plugging a piece of gear set for 110 into a 220 outlet can be potentially disastrous.

se

 

 

haha i guess it did come across that i was saying it would be  "hard" to make a dual primary transformer. My main intent was to point out the difference in a laptop power supply and the ones in our equipment.

 

thanks for the clarification steve! :beerchug:

post #1537 of 9301
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haha i guess it did come across that i was saying it would be  "hard" to make a dual primary transformer. My main intent was to point out the difference in a laptop power supply and the ones in our equipment.

thanks for the clarification steve! beerchug.gif

Yeah, the switchers are nice in that you can plug them I to just about anything and maintain the proper output voltage. But as you say, many audiophiles frown on them. However they're especially great if you also want to cover Japan with their 100 volt mains. That doesn't sound like its a big difference from 110, but it can be enough that voltage regulators can drop out and stop regulating.

se
post #1538 of 9301
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post


Haha not quite as easy to do that on audio equipment unless you're using switchers which is frowned upon by most audiophiles. In a switcher it's pretty easy to have universal power support. In a linear supply like most of our audio equipment it requires adding an additional primary on the transformer

 

If you really, really want to hear some unquotable stuff from Mike, ask him about switching supplies or Class-D amps. Or, better yet, have him show you the output on a scope. 

 

With respect to transformers, yep, all of our stuff is dual-primary (so, either 115 or 230 compatible), hard-wired in the chassis to avoid someone switching the setting to "see what it does." Though that's less of a problem in other countries than the US, which constantly amazes me with respect to its lack or awareness of the standard AC voltage. We once received an email from a relatively high-level person in the US Department of Energy asking if they should order 115V or 230V. It is framed on my wall.

 

With respect to Japan, yep, 100V is a different thing, either requiring more primary taps than we have pins for (in PC-mount transformers), or separate transformers. I expect we'll have 100V products with dedicated 100V-only transformers this year; we're getting to the point where we can do special runs.

post #1539 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 

 

If you really, really want to hear some unquotable stuff from Mike, ask him about switching supplies or Class-D amps. Or, better yet, have him show you the output on a scope. 

 

With respect to transformers, yep, all of our stuff is dual-primary (so, either 115 or 230 compatible), hard-wired in the chassis to avoid someone switching the setting to "see what it does." Though that's less of a problem in other countries than the US, which constantly amazes me with respect to its lack or awareness of the standard AC voltage. We once received an email from a relatively high-level person in the US Department of Energy asking if they should order 115V or 230V. It is framed on my wall.

 

With respect to Japan, yep, 100V is a different thing, either requiring more primary taps than we have pins for (in PC-mount transformers), or separate transformers. I expect we'll have 100V products with dedicated 100V-only transformers this year; we're getting to the point where we can do special runs.

 

Can it be switched internally by someone who knows how to hold a screwdriver and/or soldering iron? Would be good to know since some users like being able to buy US products while living in Europe, or vice versa. Heck - some users have homes in both Europe and the US and need products that can do both.

post #1540 of 9301
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Can it be switched internally by someone who knows how to hold a screwdriver and/or soldering iron? Would be good to know since some users like being able to buy US products while living in Europe, or vice versa. Heck - some users have homes in both Europe and the US and need products that can do both.

 

Due to the litigious nature of the USA, we cannot even hint that you can open up any 115V or 230V AC products. It invalidates the "no user serviceable parts inside" disclaimer.

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Didn't think about that, the US justice system is out of control... what a shame. But thanks for replying nonetheless.

post #1542 of 9301
Jason, do you have more info about when you'll start taking orders for the ragnarok?
post #1543 of 9301

Hi Jason

 

when can we expect review/impression from Jude, I am very eager regarding impression as it has been a long wait.

post #1544 of 9301
^ shouldn't you ask Jude wink.gif
post #1545 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Due to the litigious nature of the USA, we cannot even hint that you can open up any 115V or 230V AC products. It invalidates the "no user serviceable parts inside" disclaimer.
The Mjolnir power cord comes with a serious warning on it. Who can't use a power cord? I was at least hoping for some good Schiit humor...
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