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post #1471 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post


Aw c'mon, it's only $200. Hell, I spend that much at Starbucks in a month. tongue.gif

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Yeah, but at least you get to taste your caramel peppermint pumpkin hot fudge latte for a few bucks, before you binge on a month's worth. :beyersmile:

post #1472 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post


Aw c'mon, it's only $200. Hell, I spend that much at Starbucks in a month. tongue.gif

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+1

 

If it's worth it, i'll pay it. 

 

Keep in mind that the performance of the mjolnir (750$) was really really close to the wa22 (2000$) and pretty much any amp over 1300$. So, for 1700$, imagine what kind of performance you can get.

post #1473 of 9301
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Originally Posted by freddy1201 View Post
 

+1

 

If it's worth it, i'll pay it. 

 

Keep in mind that the performance of the mjolnir (750$) was really really close to the wa22 (2000$) and pretty much any amp over 1300$. So, for 1700$, imagine what kind of performance you can get.

oups, *between 1300$ and 2000$

post #1474 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Pidgeon View Post
 

Ragnarok original price has risen but my hopes are still there: a heavenly sinergy with HD800. Then it will be mine. :) 

 

Same here, good senergy with HE-6, then it will mine too :beerchug:

post #1475 of 9301
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Originally Posted by kugino View Post
 

hey jason, will the ragnarok be eligible for the 15-day money back guarantee as well? since it's a BTO, just wanted to check...

 

Yep. Which means we'll certainly have some B-stock available after things get going, from returns. 

 

With respect to the price, believe me, it would be less if we could do it. It's just that after re-speccing the original transformer, adding a second transformer and power supply board, changing to an entirely different gain stage with more exotic parts, more relays, etc...the price has to be higher. 

 

And, I think if you compare Ragnarok to anything else out there in the "end game" range, whether made in the USA or China, whether made by western or Chinese-native companies, you'll find that it is (a) less expensive, and (b) offers greater capabilities, more versatility--hey, speakers--and much, much more unique technology, from the circlotron-style output stage to the complete microprocessor system management. 

 

(Well, except maybe remote control, but hey, if you want remote, there are lots of other options out there.)

 

Ragnarok, as stated before, not only monitors the operational points of the amp 100 times a second, but actually sets the bias and DC operating point with it 3 times per second. There are A/D converters and D/A converters inside it to allow this level of system control. Nothing happens unless the microprocessor is satisfied with the operating point and DC offset. If there is a fault, such as overcurrent or high DC, the microprocessor mutes the output and puts everything in failsafe mode. We developed a unique algorithm to ensure that our operational and protection system works across speakers, headphones, with high-volume compressed music, on difficult loads, etc. 

 

Sound? Well, that's up to you. But if you want an amp that not only has no capacitors in the signal path, but no DC servos either--oh, and by the way, no potentiometer, either--it's a relay-switched stepped attenuator--that handles balanced and single-ended signals transparently and equally, without the need for any conversion or phase gain balancing, there is only one: Ragnarok.

 

Yes, we are proud of this one.

 

(And relieved that it's almost here.)

post #1476 of 9301

Sounding good already! Btw, what's the weight of this behemoth?

post #1477 of 9301

May be a silly question to ask.....as software is involved is there any chance of system crash or virus attack?

post #1478 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post
 

Sounding good already! Btw, what's the weight of this behemoth?

30 lbs. And huge: 16 x 12 x 4"

 

It's not really a desktop thing. It's more of a rack thing. 

post #1479 of 9301
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post
 

May be a silly question to ask.....as software is involved is there any chance of system crash or virus attack?

 

Um. No. This is an embedded system, not an internet-connected device.

 

If there's any hardware fault with the microprocessor, the entire system goes into a mute/no-bias/low gain/volume down mode, which is its native state without any input from the microprocessor: all inputs and outputs disconnected, gain stage shut down, output unbiased.

post #1480 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post


Yeah, but at least you get to taste your caramel peppermint pumpkin hot fudge latte for a few bucks, before you binge on a month's worth. beyersmile.png

True. But by the same token, I can't nurse on a caramel peppermint pumpkin hot fudge latte for 15 days and then take it back to Starbucks for a refund if I decide I didn't like it like you can with a Schiit product.

Tell you what, if you man-up and go for it at $1,699, I'll dip into my Starbucks fund and pay the return shipping if you decide to return it. Deal? tongue.gif

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post #1481 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 

30 lbs. And huge: 16 x 12 x 4"

 

It's not really a desktop thing. It's more of a rack thing. 

:eek:  ok, i need space....drives the HD800 well? :D

post #1482 of 9301
I must have missed something here. The Ragnarok has an internal DAC? Does this mean it accepts a digital signal or is this only part of an internal monitoring system?
post #1483 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
But if you want an amp that not only has no capacitors in the signal path, but no DC servos either--oh, and by the way, no potentiometer, either--it's a relay-switched stepped attenuator--that handles balanced and single-ended signals transparently and equally, without the need for any conversion or phase gain balancing, there is only one: Ragnarok.

 

No caps in the audio signal path, huh?  Transparency and low level detail should be amazing on this amp.  Cool stuff.

post #1484 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post
 

May be a silly question to ask.....as software is involved is there any chance of system crash or virus attack?

 

Um. No. This is an embedded system, not an internet-connected device.

 

If there's any hardware fault with the microprocessor, the entire system goes into a mute/no-bias/low gain/volume down mode, which is its native state without any input from the microprocessor: all inputs and outputs disconnected, gain stage shut down, output unbiased.

 

 

 

Great, good to know that no damage would be caused to HP, in case of microprocessor hardware failure.

post #1485 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post

I must have missed something here. The Ragnarok has an internal DAC? Does this mean it accepts a digital signal or is this only part of an internal monitoring system?

 

Nope, it's just an amp as far as we're concerned.

 

It just happens to have ADC and DAC going on while monitoring itself.

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