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post #1096 of 9301
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

what do you mean by that? That it wont give good playback of DSD? 

Bingo, right on.

post #1097 of 9301
It likely won't directly support it, but will be possible to play those files via software resampling like JRiver. Remember Mike's big DSD thread in the Vendor Info sub-forum? Yeah Yggy won't be a DSD DAC, so any path that includes DSD resampling or anything of the sort will not be present. I think this is why people are expecting things like ladder DACs and similar as they are more old school and less delta-sigma-think.
post #1098 of 9301
If you want DSD from Schiit they do have the Loki
post #1099 of 9301

I'm not that excited about PS Audio's solution in particular, mostly because of the price, but I think the FPGA idea in general is a great way for DACs to go in the future.  It does shift the burden heavily towards good software and programming design, so there are certainly some new concerns and risks that come with it too, but having a bonafide computer processor as the core engine vastly increases the amount of horsepower available to do things like upconversion and sampling.  They could work in 64-bit if they wanted to.  I think the Zetex chip in the NAD M51 is sort of along these lines only not quite as ambitious, and it brought some great innovations like digital volume control with no bit truncation due to the 35-bit working resolution.

post #1100 of 9301
The problem is going to be when FPGA is the buzzword of choice. It still will come down to implementation.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how Ted and team's algorithms play out. From the looks of it per DSD the
Lampizator is far more interesting, IMO.

 

But with software capabilities with DSD like in J River, DSD DACs and the noise it's too much.


Edited by paradoxper - 3/4/14 at 6:15pm
post #1101 of 9301

i wonder if the yggd will compete with the nad? it will be interesting to hear impressions

post #1102 of 9301

I'm from the future , in the year of 2020. I have urgent news to tell everyone , that the Ragnarock is yet to be released. 

post #1103 of 9301
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Originally Posted by GeneraI View Post
 

I'm from the future , in the year of 2020. I have urgent news to tell everyone , that the Ragnarock is yet to be released. 

 

Atleast spell it right... :rolleyes:

post #1104 of 9301
^ LOL

Ah, but which future are you from young Skywalker?
post #1105 of 9301
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

what do you mean by that? That it wont give good playback of DSD? 

Mike doesn't like DSD.  His logic is something like "The US doesn't use it when they precision bomb hospitals so why should we use it in our DACs?"  Little does he know Andreas Koch is working with the government and Sony to release a DSD compatible missile guidance system.  Unfortunately, it will only be compatible with a few obscure overpriced missiles from the 80's that no one really wants to use anyways.  

post #1106 of 9301
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Originally Posted by Radio_head View Post
 

Mike doesn't like DSD.  His logic is something like "The US doesn't use it when they precision bomb hospitals so why should we use it in our DACs?"  Little does he know Andreas Koch is working with the government and Sony to release a DSD compatible missile guidance system.  Unfortunately, it will only be compatible with a few obscure overpriced missiles from the 80's that no one really wants to use anyways.  

what a controversial quote. 

post #1107 of 9301
I thought everybody knew dsd is for suckers. smily_headphones1.gif
post #1108 of 9301
Schiit sells DSD component-

http://schiit.com/products/loki

Doesn't appear they are against it to me.
post #1109 of 9301
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post

Schiit sells DSD component-

http://schiit.com/products/loki

Doesn't appear they are against it to me.

They made the Loki so people would stop bugging/complaining that Schiit didn't have a DSD solution.  I'm pretty sure that Jason has already explained why they don't like it in a couple different threads.  I would be surprised to see it in the Yggdrasil.  

post #1110 of 9301

I don't care about DSD really, all i care about is it sounding good. If it can compete with the WFS DAC2 and maybe the NAD M51 then i will be happy. 

 

PS audio just made the PWD MK2 2000 dollars so it will have to compete there as well. 

 

I really hope that it will be a contender against those DAC's because i like the company and their products look great. 

I would like to upgrade to YGGD i just hope people don't report back that its harsh and bright, i suppose lets just wait and see. 

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