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New Schiit! Ragnarok and Yggdrasil
Mar 1, 2014 at 11:32 AM Post #1,068 of 9,484
barry s said:
 
I don't think it's likely until after the tube Rag gets released. Even then, I'd update the Lyr first, since the Mjolnir is extremely good as it stands.
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Or an Uber Modi.  Need something higher performance to stack with the Vali.
 
Mar 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM Post #1,069 of 9,484
kzakkttixx said:
  I really hope for the existence of both types of balanced outputs (2 x 3-pin XLR + 4-pin XLR) in a hybrid version. At the moment, it is critical for me, as I plan to simultaneously driving two pairs of HE-6 (with balanced headphone cables by Artisan Silver Cables & Revelation Audio Labs). At one time was a little disappointed that Ragnarok SS deprived 2 x 3-pin XLR. Otherwise I'll have to choose B22...
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I doubt you will see that.  It is a legacy arrangement.  You could always use a speaker tap adapter to get a second out.
 
Mar 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM Post #1,070 of 9,484
rrahman said:
  Alot of the excitement I once had for the Ragnarok has dwindled for me.  I have been looking forward to this amp since they announced it, but after cycling through so many top tier amps (Liquid glass, WA22, Bryston BHA, soloist, Taboo, DNA stratus etc) I'm not sure substantial gains over the Mjolnir are even possible.  The WA22 is the only amp which I have unequivocally preferred the Mjolnir too and I simply couldn't justify its price.  Although I have yet to try the Auralic Taurus mkII, most top tier amps I tried struggle to compete w/ Mjolnir's price/sq ratio IMO.  I still find the Mjolnir aggressive sounding, but its a minor quibble that I live with.
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I'm not sure that amps in general are supposed to offer "substantial gains".
 
The majority of the performance of any system comes from the source material and headphone.
 
If the source material is digital then DAC's are important, but amplifiers and cables are just the icing on the cake in mind.
 
You can fine tune a system and get that last 5% by picking the right amp, but it's not a good place to start building a system.
 
The WA22 obviously got you that last 5% in your case, so it has justified its price and existence. Is it worth it? That's up to you...
 
Mar 1, 2014 at 3:28 PM Post #1,071 of 9,484
ninjahamster said:
  If you unequivocally preferred the Mjolnir to the WA22, why would you need to justify the WA22's price ?  
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sorry. typo... wa22 is the only amp where I unequivocally preferred over the mjolnir
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 11:51 AM Post #1,072 of 9,484
twoears said:
   
I'm not sure that amps in general are supposed to offer "substantial gains".
 
...amplifiers and cables are just the icing on the cake....
 
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With respect, I cannot agree that amps are a secondary consideration. Everything you hear comes through the amplifier; it is the absolute limit to how good your phones (or speakers) can sound.
 
Granted, it's harder to find a truly terrible amp these days, but mediocrity is all around. Not to mention the necessity of matching an amp to phones or iems.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 3:11 PM Post #1,073 of 9,484
twoears said:
   
I'm not sure that amps in general are supposed to offer "substantial gains".
 
The majority of the performance of any system comes from the source material and headphone.
 
If the source material is digital then DAC's are important, but amplifiers and cables are just the icing on the cake in mind.
 
You can fine tune a system and get that last 5% by picking the right amp, but it's not a good place to start building a system.
 
The WA22 obviously got you that last 5% in your case, so it has justified its price and existence. Is it worth it? That's up to you...
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Well, I guess its all relative to what one consider's "substantial".  I will say this though, that while I couldn't find any amp that sounded substantially better than the Mjolnir.  I have found plenty that sounded substantially worse.
 
I think part of my problem is I'm trying to find an amp that sounds great w/ the HD800 and the LCD3, which is pretty hard since each of these headphones have such different amplifier requirements.  In the meantime I'll just continue spend money on my speaker set up.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 4:20 PM Post #1,074 of 9,484
rrahman said:
   
 
Well, I guess its all relative to what one consider's "substantial".  I will say this though, that while I couldn't find any amp that sounded substantially better than the Mjolnir.  I have found plenty that sounded substantially worse.
 
I think part of my problem is I'm trying to find an amp that sounds great w/ the HD800 and the LCD3, which is pretty hard since each of these headphones have such different amplifier requirements.  In the meantime I'll just continue spend money on my speaker set up.
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Indeed
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I don't deny that good amp's and dac's can make a big difference. It's just that during my journey through high-end hi-fi the "jaw dropping moments" have come when listening to significantly better speakers or headphones.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 5:15 PM Post #1,075 of 9,484
I am really trying to hold out for the Rag but the Auralic Taurus MK2 and the Questyle CMA800R both have seriously peaked my interests.. To wait or not to wait 
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Mar 4, 2014 at 12:48 PM Post #1,078 of 9,484
eraserxiv said:
Last I heard we were waiting on metal that was supposed to come in February.. which seems to have come and gone.
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Does that mean there are ready boards and parts laying around but no cases?
 
Maybe they can sell them as DIY?
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"Here are the parts now build your own box"
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Mar 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM Post #1,079 of 9,484
Still waiting on good metal, I'm afraid--hopefully this month...
 
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Mar 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM Post #1,080 of 9,484
I am very much looking forward to the release of the Yggdrasil.  I am wondering just how much of a step-up the Yggdrasil would be over my current "Überfrost" - in what sonic qualities will it outshine it's little Bifrost brother?     
I'm not unhappy my Bifrost by any means, but I am something of a gear-person and can already see myself rationalizing a Yggdrasil.
I predict a buyers market on gently used Bifrost's here in the for-sale forum.
 
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