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post #166 of 493
vwinter, sounds like you are describing the 400's metallic timbre. I found the FR of the 400 overly polite to a fault. However the notes did have a strange metallic tinge to them but in no way affected how overly smoothed I thought the FR was. Sounds like the 600 doesn't have this issue and isn't as sleepy of an iem.
post #167 of 493
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The 600 had better dynamics in that way. But, the 600 has a smoothness around the notes that the 400 doesn't. it felt like a really clean mature decay. Maybe we're not saying very different things after all lol.

What struck me is that the 400 felt like it was giving it all it had and it was great, but the 600 was very calm and composed while doing just a little bit more, like it hadn't broken a sweat yet.

Any word on the 600 comfort? It seemed like half the size and weight of the 400.
 

 

Agreed and definitely RE-600 hasn't broke a sweat with a Note 2 or even the 901 with stock amp board.  Describing sound is really tricky and yes I think afterall we have similar assessment on their difference.  beerchug.gif

 

 

Comfort wise they are largely the same size actually.  Any difference is driven from the cable - RE-600 got thicker cable that tangle less and easier to handle then the RE-400 ones.  However, the 400 is easier to wear over the ear.  It is a minor difference but enough that I prefer over the ear for 400, but wearing them down for 600.  This may also be that RE-400 cable is more microphonic than the RE-600 so the need to wear it over ear for the 600 is lessen.

post #168 of 493

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Make sure you demo a 901+balanced amp board with the RE600 if your local store has this combo.   Your wallet may not like it but you might.  very_evil_smiley.gif  

 

And no need to "debug" LOL... impressions are very subjective and I think everyone's impression is valuable reference for others who have not gotten a chance to listen to the gear.  Too many things impact the overall impression and it is always good to have more opinions and takes than less.

 

beerchug.gif

Nah man, I dipped out of portable audio 3 years ago. tongue_smile.gif In fact I'm just trying new things to get a sense of where the market is today since some of my friends consult me for help on the topic.

 

Yup, but I like to correlate my impressions to actual data especially since the experience was so brief. Square wave response and CSD plots are especially useful for identifying certain factors within the sound that might have inspired my lukewarm impressions. Otherwise, it takes a good chunk of time and experience to really learn a product -- that's not something I've had with the RE-600.

 

TBH my most extensive and learned IEM experiences are with my JH13s and Image X10s (gym) -- they are the only IEMs I would feel comfortable making confident opinions about since I've (1) owned them for well over a year and (2) still have them.

 

Speaking of the X10, I believe the oval tips would fit on the RE-600, which could easily make them exceptionally comfortable. I did find the small "bar" tips sufficient for my ear canals.


Edited by 3X0 - 6/28/13 at 9:13am
post #169 of 493
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

The 600 had better dynamics in that way. But, the 600 has a smoothness around the notes that the 400 doesn't. it felt like a really clean mature decay. Maybe we're not saying very different things after all lol.

What struck me is that the 400 felt like it was giving it all it had and it was great, but the 600 was very calm and composed while doing just a little bit more, like it hadn't broken a sweat yet.

Any word on the 600 comfort? It seemed like half the size and weight of the 400.
Looking forward to it!

I believe the 400 and 600 housings are exactly the same size. Perhaps the difference in feel is due to the stiffer cable of the 400, which does make it feel somewhat heavier when in the ears. Given the correct-fitting tips, the RE-600 quickly "disappears" once in place. I have, many time, fallen asleep with them in my ears and end up sleeping on them without discomfort.
post #170 of 493
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I believe the 400 and 600 housings are exactly the same size. Perhaps the difference in feel is due to the stiffer cable of the 400, which does make it feel somewhat heavier when in the ears. Given the correct-fitting tips, the RE-600 quickly "disappears" once in place. I have, many time, fallen asleep with them in my ears and end up sleeping on them without discomfort.

 

Color and finish can also impact it as well...  We'll see with time what the size actually is.  Who knows, it might be physically smaller. 

post #171 of 493
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

vwinter, sounds like you are describing the 400's metallic timbre. I found the FR of the 400 overly polite to a fault. However the notes did have a strange metallic tinge to them but in no way affected how overly smoothed I thought the FR was. Sounds like the 600 doesn't have this issue and isn't as sleepy of an iem.

It's possible. It's hard to say really given the environment. It really wasn't that bad and definitely not a deal breaker in any way. Honestly, the FR was fine if you mean 20-20K. It's just that they sounded... energetic. Not in a "some part of the FR is boosted" kind of way but in overall character. Only in comparison to the 600, it sounded more forward and edgy, but not having the ability to be more dynamic. Does that make sense? =/

I'd really like more time with them to sort it out. I like them enough to buy them but I just don't have a place for them really where they would get much use in my lineup so I feel it would be a waste.

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Agreed and definitely RE-600 hasn't broke a sweat with a Note 2 or even the 901 with stock amp board.  Describing sound is really tricky and yes I think afterall we have similar assessment on their difference.  beerchug.gif



Comfort wise they are largely the same size actually.  Any difference is driven from the cable - RE-600 got thicker cable that tangle less and easier to handle then the RE-400 ones.  However, the 400 is easier to wear over the ear.  It is a minor difference but enough that I prefer over the ear for 400, but wearing them down for 600.  This may also be that RE-400 cable is more microphonic than the RE-600 so the need to wear it over ear for the 600 is lessen.

Yea, the able on the 600 was quite good but the long strain reliefs made it harder to wear up.
Really? Same size? Maybe I need to get my eyes checked... frown.gif
post #172 of 493
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Yea, the able on the 600 was quite good but the long strain reliefs made it harder to wear up.
Really? Same size? Maybe I need to get my eyes checked... frown.gif

 

Exactly the same.  400 is silver, 600 is black.  I'll get my 400 back tmr and can post a pic for you.

post #173 of 493
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Speaking of the X10, I believe the oval tips would fit on the RE-600, which could easily make them exceptionally comfortable. I did find the small "bar" tips sufficient for my ear canals.

I did try to install some tips from my X10 and my PFE232's, but both have a much smaller bore than does the 400/600. I finally managed to stretch an X10 tip over the RE-600, but it was VERY difficult and I was worried that a finger slip would damage the strain relief. I did find that the tips from my Sony EX800ST did fit on quite well and I was able to get a good seal with them.
post #174 of 493
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Exactly the same.  400 is silver, 600 is black.  I'll get my 400 back tmr and can post a pic for you.

I just found a picture online. Probably the same. Lol

Here's my hindsight assessment =/
The 600 has a different outer layer being a pico smaller if anything but is lighter making them seem smaller.

The 600 was classy looking though.

Weight them!
If they weight exactly the same... lie. smile.gif
post #175 of 493

For me the stock double flange works perfectly fine.  From tip rolling the RE400, I liked the double flange the best and didn't bother to roll with the 600 today.

post #176 of 493
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Yes, they had them for immediate sale. Not sure how many units they had on-hand and/or how many sold, so I'd call them to confirm they're still in stock.

 

Thanks. They did have at least some in stock today since they agreed to hold one up for me for up to 24 hrs.

I already picked it up - now all that is left is to endure the torture of waiting for my Tera player (Charles has shipped it but god knows how long before it actually arrives).

post #177 of 493

if anyone pairs RE-600 with a J3 , let us know what he thinks

 

thanx :-)

post #178 of 493
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if anyone pairs RE-600 with a J3 , let us know what he thinks

 

thanx :-)

 

Sorry. Couldn't do it, but I can certainly buy it. No problem.


Edited by Niyologist - 6/28/13 at 1:52pm
post #179 of 493
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

I just found a picture online. Probably the same. Lol

Here's my hindsight assessment =/
The 600 has a different outer layer being a pico smaller if anything but is lighter making them seem smaller.

The 600 was classy looking though.

Weight them!
If they weight exactly the same... lie. smile.gif

Pics for 400 vs 600 as promised:


post #180 of 493

How is the sound stage,  separation & bass  between HiFiMan RE-600 ($399) vs Heir Audio  4A.i ($399) ?

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