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post #556 of 2144

Yeah that's the best place. 3 Year warranty, good return policies. Very good seller. They have a great reputation as far as I know, a lot of musicians around EU use them. And even if it's not the best price (which I think it is) the extra warranty and safety that you bought from a place that's no way going to go out of business or ignore your warranty claims, is worth the extra £/$/€ or whatever currency you're using. In my opinion. My pair just got shipped out yesterday. I got a mail at 05:50 local time. They need to stop working so much.

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I really thank you for your quick answer... I am really curious about them... 

 

Edit: trigger pulled... look forward...


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 11/5/13 at 2:21am
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I really thank you for your quick answer... I am really curious about them... 

 

Edit: trigger pulled... look forward...


Cecala this situation is getting out of hand, 2 new users? no way... :)

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Yeah that's the best place. 3 Year warranty, good return policies. Very good seller. They have a great reputation as far as I know, a lot of musicians around EU use them. And even if it's not the best price (which I think it is) the extra warranty and safety that you bought from a place that's no way going to go out of business or ignore your warranty claims, is worth the extra £/$/€ or whatever currency you're using. In my opinion. My pair just got shipped out yesterday. I got a mail at 05:50 local time. They need to stop working so much.

 

Oh you pulled the trigger? Nice!

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Oh you pulled the trigger? Nice!

Well, yes I did. Dammit, I'm such a shopaholic.

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Well, yes I did. Dammit, I'm such a shopaholic.

 

Hey, the good thing about this hobby is that someone else will...wait for it...BUY the stuff you no longer want, minimizing the loss you take overall. It's the only reason I can hang in this hobby. I just keep recycling my money. With all the stuff I've bought on here, it's just been the same $700 or so recycled over and over.

post #562 of 2144

Yeah.. that's the good thing. The bad thing is the loss in shipping and a few percentages each sale.

post #563 of 2144
Impressions incoming. They are already written, but I just want to confirm a few points... with myself... before posting them. Thanks again to carlsan for the loan.
post #564 of 2144
Been reading this thread and the impressions over work since morning and it managed to grab my focus to consider this IEM for my next purchase. Coming from XBA-30, which is a detail and clarity wonder for the price, I wonder if the FA4 will be a considerable upgrade or maybe a side grade? Cheers to everyone!


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post #565 of 2144
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Never heard the xba3 if they are more or less in the same league as the um3x, 535 or sm3v2 the FA 4e are without a doubt to me an upgrade

If you listen to a wide range of music and your preferences are rock, electronic, pop, alternative and things like that the fa 4e are a good choice if not the best in that price range
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/5/13 at 7:41am
post #566 of 2144
FA-4E XB Impressions:

Listening done on iPhone 5S and Yulong D100 MKII > Meier Quickstep

I'll unfortunately be more brief here since I don't have much time these days, which is unfortunately doing these a small injustice. Though what people who have heard these will feel is a bigger injustice is that I will be writing those from the standpoint of what made me sad about them, the lost potential, my hopes, and the expectations. Don't take this in offense anyone that loves these because I only do this when I think something is incredibly good. The better something is, the more the little things can disappoint you, or me.

Like shotgunshane, I hear these as being a broad U signature with slightly steeper slopes at the ends. When listening to them, they sound quite linear throughout most of the FR, but test tones show a couple of strategically placed dips in the lower treble. While these are likely placed to lower listening fatigue, they kill the rich lower treble harmonics that float up from the midrange, killing the midrange energy I like to hear. For all the clarity, crispness, separation and clean imaging of the sound, vocals, while they sound tonally accurate, often just sound muted, like the energy can't escape a bubble around them, and in this way lacks texture and hurts instrument timbre on things like horns. They don't reach the listener. This is a flaw in character to me. I'll get back to this later.

The bass has very good extension, among the best I've heard from a BA. Slightly better extension than the Heaven V and more linear throughout the mid bass. This removes warmth but also coloration. Pick your poison. The bass is also incredibly tight and clean, tighter and cleaner than the ASG-2. Where it falls flat is that it's detached, once again, from the listener. It just doesn't reach me. This is unfortunately the pattern.

The treble is satisfying, it has it's peaks especially higher up but very smooth yet detailed. I had not noticed any sibilance when in my regular rotation of tracks that pops up now and then on my ASG-2. Not the best extension though, but it doesn't really bother me with music playing

Soundstage is good. Height might be a small bit compressed but otherwise satisfying. Very good but not special. Imaging is very crisp and precise, but unfortunately it lacks gravity and dimensionality. This is where is falls far behind the ASG-2 or the Heaven V. The images just seem to float in space rather than being grounded on a stage. Then, and here's where it gets ugly for those expecting the world, because of that lack of dimensionality, compared to the ASG-2, it sounds like a shooting gallery at a carnival, where the things you are trying to pinpoint are clearly cut out but have no depth, they are flat and realism of the experience suffers. This is hurt by what I now call the Pane of Glass effect. It feels like there is a pane of glass between you and the show. Everything sounds in front of you, with relatively for stereo imaging directly, 180 degrees, left and right, and it just won't reach you. You can't feel it. I think this is in part due to less than stellar dynamics. Passages that should crescendo just don't for the most part.

Personally, I just want to make a note about coherency. The tuning of the midrange driver is quite unlike the rest, possibly in a effort to reduce listening fatigue. To me, it stands out and I can hear it. It's no worse than the 1plus2, BA200, and probably many other multi-driver IEMs. It's not as good as the W4 but the FA-4E is what I expected from the W4 and I think it's a better IEM for the most part. The best I've heard in this regard for multi driver IEMs are the ASG-2 and the UERM demo.

They are also damn comfortable and surprisingly isolating, but the fit and finish are a little blah for the price, the FA logo is a bit tacky on the shells, and the stupid cable has that stupid huge non-phone-case-friendly hugeness at the plug. Ugh.

So now that the whole thread is likely typing up responses in a rage, I just want to say that I place the FA-4E XB among the best IEMs I've heard. They do so much right and very little wrong. Which is why I nitpick more when something is very good. I'd say people looking for a cleaner brighter sounding W4 should look no further. I'd also tentatively say that this could be a GR07 upgrade, purely from memory, less sibilance, great sub bass extension with no mid bass bloat, non-fatiguing mids, and oodles of detail, clarity, and separation. This could also make a great complimentary IEM for the ASG-2 crowd. The G-2 is more temperamental with the 5S as a source and can be very harsh and piecing with hotly mastered tracks. Unforgiving. The FA-4E steps in nicely there.
Edited by vwinter - 11/5/13 at 6:22pm
post #567 of 2144

Thanks Vwinter, nice impressions. You start with the faults, then come back with the positives, nice.

 

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 So now that the whole thread is likely typing up responses in a rage, I just want to say that I place the FA-4E XB among the best IEMs I've heard. They do so much right and very little wrong. Which is why I nitpick more when something is very good. I'd say people looking for a cleaner brighter sounding W4 should look no further. I'd also tentatively say that this could be a GR07 upgrade, purely from memory, less sibilance, great sub bass extension with no mid bass bloat, non-fatiguing mids, no sinilance, and oodles of detail, clarity, and separation. This could also make a great complimentary IEM for the ASG-2 crowd. The G-2 is more temperamental with the 5S as a source and can be very harsh and piecing with hotly mastered tracks. Unforgiving. The FA-4E steps in nicely there.
post #568 of 2144
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Originally Posted by Kurdt-bada View Post

Never heard the xba3 if they are more or less in the same league as the um3x, 535 or sm3v2 the FA 4e are without a doubt to me an upgradeIf you listen to a wide range of music and your preferences are rock, electronic, pop, alternative and things like that the fa 4e are a good choice if not the best in that price range

Yes. Mainly j-pop music, but can encompass also other genres as wel, especially with strong female voices. Can these also perform well on instrumentals? Have my collection here of game soundtracks that I often listen for relaxing sessions.


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Originally Posted by divineness View Post

Been reading this thread and the impressions over work since morning and it managed to grab my focus to consider this IEM for my next purchase. Coming from XBA-30, which is a detail and clarity wonder for the price, I wonder if the FA4 will be a considerable upgrade or maybe a side grade? Cheers to everyone!


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I also own the XBA-30, I would say that the FA4's are an improvement. I loved the XBA-3/30's when I got them, yes, I have owned both.

The xba-3's are much more picky with sources, they really shine with the right source, xba-30's are more forgiving. Still the FA-4's work well with every source that I have used, including the Burson Soloist, as well as a variety of Daps. The FA's have more refinement, more detail, and just sound like a better earphone to my ears.

 

I should add that at the current low price of the XBA-3/30's, at least in the States, they are a steal, imho.


Edited by Carlsan - 11/5/13 at 8:15pm
post #570 of 2144
I have the XBA-4 and think the FA-4E is better fwiw.

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Thanks Vwinter, nice impressions. You start with the faults, then come back with the positives, nice.

Thanks. It's born out of respect for the sound when I take that approach.
Edited by vwinter - 11/5/13 at 9:20pm
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