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Do you think burn in is necessary?



Before I listened to mostly bass heavy electronic and dance music and most of that is either 320kbps mp3 or 270kbps aac. However I now listen to quite a lot of classical and have been enjoying some Bob Marley at the moment too. I have the Marley Legend album in flac and it sounds fantastic.



I have a David guetta album in flac too hut the songs on that sound horrendous (gets crackly when there is a lot of bass and too many things going on). Do you think it could have just been upscale to flac from mp3?



I would also be grateful if you could tell me where I could get some good flac songs from ?



Cheers

 



Just a note to say that whilst you can convert flac to mp3 you can't go the other way.

I thought you can scale up from mp3 to flac? i know about the fact that it will be the same audio quality as the mp3 just a bigger file but some people upscale the mp3's and pass them off as flac's.

 

 

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i don't think burn in is necessary at least in balanced iems

I don't use flac files I use 320 or 192 kbps normally but imo is more important the recording itself than high biltrates, I get the music from soulseek

 

Thanks. The crackling is still there. It normally happens around chorus' when there is a big impact and lots of things are going on at once, any suggestions?

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Smithamb, I listen to tracks like David Guetta when I exercise and I've never experienced the FAs get crackly.  I'm not being a FA apologetic by the way, but I find the bass controlled but impactful (and I tested a lot of IEMs before deciding on them).  Perhaps it is your source.  I use my pair with a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact, iPad Air and Sansa Clip+.  If you really find the sound inconsistent I would return them.  I doubt anything will change with burn-in.

 

Change of topic, but besides the iBazzo DX50 does anyone have recommendations for a portable amp or DAP to use with the FAs?  I personally don't find the mids on the FAs to be recessed, but something that brought out the mids more would be interesting for a change in sound.  I'm not looking to spend too much, as I'm trying to save up for a Microsoft Surface Pro 3...

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Smithamb, I listen to tracks like David Guetta when I exercise and I've never experienced the FAs get crackly.  I'm not being a FA apologetic by the way, but I find the bass controlled but impactful (and I tested a lot of IEMs before deciding on them).  Perhaps it is your source.  I use my pair with a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact, iPad Air and Sansa Clip+.  If you really find the sound inconsistent I would return them.  I doubt anything will change with burn-in.

 

Change of topic, but besides the iBazzo DX50 does anyone have recommendations for a portable amp or DAP to use with the FAs?  I personally don't find the mids on the FAs to be recessed, but something that brought out the mids more would be interesting for a change in sound.  I'm not looking to spend too much, as I'm trying to save up for a Microsoft Surface Pro 3...

Think I'm gonna have to return them as they just don't live up to what i was expecting which really does make me sad :/ agh well, back to the search for my perfect iem!!

 

As far as an amp is concerned, i have been doing some research and the fiio e17 seems to be an absolute steal for the price (I found it for £80)!!

post #1474 of 2143
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Well if you are not happy with them is reasonable don't think twice
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Well if you are not happy with them is reasonable don't think twice

Agreed they are lovely iems but if they don't measure up then don't be reticent to get your money back. As for the daps and dac etc try them first if you can ! Can't stress that enough bought a few on a whim and well i've been burnt just because someone left a glowing review doesn't mean it will match up with your expectation. Dap maybe the DX90 ?? 

post #1476 of 2143
Crackling on choruses could be;

1. Amp can't amplify the frequencies.
2. DAC can't convert into a good signal.
3. Too much sound. The music is distorted to begin with.
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Picked the fischers up about a month ago. The new style effect audio Apollo cable, looks nice in blue with the fa's wink.gif.

If anyone's got the dn1000, try using one of the spacer rings and the dunu silicon tips. The spacers seem to add better soundstage width and the dunu tips give an airier presentation compared with a lot of the different tips I've tried.
post #1478 of 2143
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Do you like the sound of the fischers compared to the dn 1000?

In btw I updated my ibasso dx50 with this firmware
http://yadi.sk/d/YPR6Vj2zRHj6j
And it sounds similar to my amp and ibasso dx50 combo, amazing sound upgrade
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 5/31/14 at 2:07pm
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The Dunu are a very good earphone, and as many have mentioned on headfi, there's little it does wrong. However, to me, the driver configuration seems slightly disjointed. The full spectrum just doesn't connect together coherently, the subbass is nice and deep but seems detached from everything else. Don't get me wrong, the presentation is very enjoyable, the soundstage is big, more so than the FA's, everything seems further away.The high's of the Dunu are OK, but there is some sibilance which becomes much more prominent when compared to the FA's. The midrange of the FA's is much more enveloping, liquid and smooth, yet still highly detailed. The presentation of the detail however is not always as clear as the Dunu can be. I think this is down to the Dunu having quite a dry and thin midrange which is recessed but still somehow comes across with great clarity (TWFK drivers :)). Each note has more space as the full height of the wave is never fully reached which give the perception of greater space between notes. In contrast the FA's have a thicker, more rich note presentation, so whilst the same detail is present, it is sometimes harder to perceive due to the richer, more full presentation of the audio (and technically more accurate). The FA's come up more balanced as well. I like the subtle U shape curve on them.

 

Overall I think the FA's are a more enjoyable, more full sounding and technically better IEM. It's the best i've yet come across out of the few i've owned (SA6, GR07, RHA 750, DN-1000) it has an amazing airy, open and highly resolving presentation. It's an intimate perspective enveloping you fully in the music, sometime I do find myself wishing for better soundstage depth as I was expecting more in this price range, the Dunu can sometimes appear to layer the music better but this may again be due to the slight incoherence of the overall tuning. 

 

I think my searching is now over until the Fishers pack in. It ticks most of the boxes for me. 

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Try some monster tri flange tips if you can soundstage is very improved with this tips imo
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Originally Posted by Kurdt-bada View Post

Do you like the sound of the fischers compared to the dn 1000?

In btw I updated my ibasso dx50 with this firmware
http://yadi.sk/d/YPR6Vj2zRHj6j
And it sounds similar to my amp and ibasso dx50 combo, amazing sound upgrade


Kurdt where is that firmware from?  What changes does it make to the iBasso DX50's sound?

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Originally Posted by Kurdt-bada View Post

Try some monster tri flange tips if you can soundstage is very improved with this tips imo

 

I agree with this.


Edited by lolhart - 6/1/14 at 11:44am
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Any link for buying the monster triflanges? Getting mixed results on Amazon.
post #1483 of 2143
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I got that firmware from the spanish forum... changes in sound are: wider stage, clearer, detailed and better separation

 

X50 SOUND EXPLOSION BY DOC2008
 
 - Based on DX90 v2.0.5 firmware
- Android has disabled participation in the processing of sound. now sound without distortion from the player goes directly to the DAC
- Supports all audio formats and works gapless
- Ideal for uncompromising sound DX50 
- Flash of all time 
 
http://yadi.sk/d/YPR6Vj2zRHj6j

 

the link of the monster triflanges http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DURONIC-TRIPLE-FLANGE-EARPHONE-BUDS-TIPS-FOR-MONSTER-BEATS-EARPHONES-/151110437258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item232ee2498a

post #1484 of 2143
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About the firmware it's very good the upgrade but I must say I received the charger for the batteries of my amp today and the combo is significant better than the dx 50 alone. I forgot how good the amp sounds.

post #1485 of 2143
Just got my FA4s, so glad I did. They are exactly what I was expecting: a more mature, more technically capable TF10. IMO it blends the best traits of the TF10 (u-shape, just enough extra kick and shine to be exciting), UM3X (forward sound, neutral mids, great separation) and UE900 (3D sound, good dynamics for a BA). The unfiltered SM3 had extra treble shine which I liked, and I think it was a little faster, but its mids were overly forward and sounded strained at times. It also wasnt this 3D and it distorted a lot.

If anything I wish the FA4 was a bit more laid back and maybe a smidge less warm, but I'm using my phone as a source, so I really can't complain. Everything is there, even ergonomics and isolation; I probably couldn't ask more for the price. I am still going to try the W3, but I think this is my IEM (for now)!!!
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