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post #826 of 1727
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I think I'll be around here for a while smily_headphones1.gif

what wil be harmony's configuration? By the way
post #827 of 1727

It's unlikely mine will arrive today so hopefully by middle of next week I'll get them.

 

I find it useful to have both custom and universals. I use universals at work where I can easily take them out or have it just it in one ear and the other sitting on top of my ear or for gym use. However my next ciem will probably be something from Westone. I was looking at the ES5 but apparently there's a new model coming out.

post #828 of 1727

Base on descriptions, it seems it has the transparency of my V6. I  think I'm going to just stick with the V6 as far as multi-BA IEMs are concerned. It's very satisfying right now. If I jump on multi-BAs again, it will probably be for the V8, Roxanne, and I'm curious to see what Vsonic might do with its proposed line of new multiple-BAs IEMs. Glad you guys are enjoying this IEM though. Seems like it's mighty capable.

post #829 of 1727

My FA4 is set to arrive tomorrow. It arrived at the post office near my house so pretty excited to finally hear these :)

post #830 of 1727
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My FA4 is set to arrive tomorrow. It arrived at the post office near my house so pretty excited to finally hear these :)


Happy listening. It will be very interesting to read your thoughts as you have the highly claimed JH13 Pro FreqPhase.

post #831 of 1727
Please have meelec balanced tips available :> if you're coming from something neutral and punchy I fear stock tips will sound veiled to you. If you hear the same difference as I do it will be worth it.
post #832 of 1727

Ortofon tips are excellent sounding to me, if one prefers the single flange silicone type eartips... Sony Hybrids are pretty close too, if you don't have any Ortofon ones on hand.

post #833 of 1727
The jh13 won't be anytime soon. It's going through refits and I might need another set of impressions on one ear so I'm not expecting anything for the next month. My tip of choice is usually the stock tf10 tips but I'll find out later.
post #834 of 1727
I got them around an hour ago or so and they sound pretty nice. The logo on the faceplate is definitely suspect and it would have been better if it was part of the shell instead like how custom artwork is for a CIEM. I don't have many tips with me since I'm at work but I took out the song hybrids I had on the tf10 and those seem good so far. I couldn't really keep the seal with the balanced tips.
post #835 of 1727
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Cool! wait till time passes and you get used to their sound and try some tip rolling,

 

to me the comply foams in medium included in the package were the best sounding tips i had till i got my custom tips which obliterates stock tips in sq and in comfort and isolation too, didn't like the sound of the sony hybrids of my ex1000 on the fa 4e though

post #836 of 1727

So far the sound is pretty close to what I expected. It sounds a bit similar to a JH5 with more bass. Unfortunately I won't be able to compare the two as I sold my JH5 and will be shipping them right after work today so I don't own anything in the same price range anymore. The build quality other than the logo seems good so far. They don't seem to be as thick as my ciems but I don't see that being a big issue. I think I heard someone say that these were made from a 3d printer but not too sure.

 

However I will say that these universal made customs is definitely something. I didn't know of such a thing until the summer when I was at a meet at Dimitri from Musica Acoustics had a few of those for demo. 

post #837 of 1727

Just a note: I´ll be joining the FA4-XB club soon. Was looking for a new multi-BA IEM after my UE900 started breaking down... All in all not that many choices out there. Looking for something fairly neutral, but with a slight/moderate bass boost. Also needed detachable cables with a connector other than MMCX as I´ve never heard an IEM with them that doesn´t eventually develop left/right channel cutouts. So far my IEM reference is the Sennheiser IE800, but I eventually couldn´t stand its way overdone bass boost and microphonics anymore. The Sony EX-1000 is pretty good, but it has a pretty nasty treble peak and instrument separation isn´t on the same level against the Sennheiser or multi-BA IEMs in general.

 

That left me with:

 

(1) another Ultimate Ears 900: no thanks anymore, horrible build quality. First the shell cracked, then the connectors or cables started failing. Also MMCX means no sale for me anymore.

(2) EarSonics SM64: no thanks anymore, had one once and its build quality is almost as bad plus there´s no real distributor network. If something goes wrong Head-Fi is full of tragic warranty stories. Nice sound though, forgiving and smooth if your into that kind of sound. I usually prefer a bit more neutrality though.

(3) Shure: the new one is too expensive in the EU, the old one seems a bit overpriced in today´s market. MMCX connectors again.

(4) Westone: not much of a distributor network in the EU, plus the new range seems to be just the old ones in a new shell. Connector issue.

(5) In Ear: the SD2/SD3 seems very interesting, but with no return guarantee on Thomann (doesn´t apply to many IEMs due to hygiene reasons) I can´t take the risk getting a bad fit. At least I need to minimize it. The Fischer Amps shell seems much smaller.

 

I´ll let you know what I think of it once the Fischer Amps IEM arrives! I´m hoping for an improved BA-version of the Sony EX-1000. In other words a slight V-shape sound, but hopefully with more pronounced mids, not as much of a treble spike, a better instrument separation and some real noise isolation.


Edited by vrln - 12/10/13 at 1:15am
post #838 of 1727
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Rawster did you try the foams provided in the package in medium? the sound of the silicone tips is a bit in V, harsh and less clear and detailed.

 

Congrats vrnl to me they are a complete upgrade over the sony ex1000 except for the bass and a bit wider soundstage but they are far superior overall imo and close in bass and soundstage. separation detail and clarity are in another tier,

post #839 of 1727
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Just a note: I´ll be joining the FA4-XB club soon. Was looking for a new multi-BA IEM after my UE900 started breaking down... All in all not that many choices out there. Looking for something fairly neutral, but with a slight/moderate bass boost. Also needed detachable cables with a connector other than MMCX as I´ve never heard an IEM with them that doesn´t eventually develop left/right channel cutouts. So far my IEM reference is the Sennheiser IE800, but I eventually couldn´t stand its way overdone bass boost and microphonics anymore. The Sony EX-1000 is pretty good, but it has a pretty nasty treble peak and instrument separation isn´t on the same level against the Sennheiser or multi-BA IEMs in general.

 

That left me with:

 

(1) another Ultimate Ears 900: no thanks anymore, horrible build quality. First the shell cracked, then the connectors or cables started selling. Also MMCX means no sale for me anymore.

 

Never understood the seemingly recent switch to the mmcx as standard.  There was nothing wrong with the westone style two pin.  Shure and now UE have been plagued with issues (215 for shure and obviously 900 for UE).

 

(2) EarSonics SM64: no thanks anymore, had one once and its build quality is almost as bad plus there´s no real distributor network. If something goes wrong Head-Fi is full of tragic warranty stories. Nice sound though, forgiving and smooth if your into that kind of sound. I usually prefer a bit more neutrality though.

 

Always tempted to try an Earsonics product (even as far as jumping in at the deep end and trying the sm6 universal, despite the (ouch) price).  Build quality and warranty issues have put me right off tbh.

 

(3) Shure: the new one is too expensive in the EU, the old one seems a bit overpriced in today´s market. MMCX connectors again.

 

Not much to say here, but Shure have always seemed more expensive over here than the us.  Would have liked to try the 535 but with no returns at that price it wasn't happening.

 

(4) Westone: not much of a distributor network in the EU, plus the new range seems to be just the old ones in a new shell. Connector issue.

 

Funnily enough Westone always seemed easy to get in the uk.  Iheadphones, advancedmp3players and amazon (direct or third party sellers)amongst others always seemed to have plenty of stock.

 

(5) In Ear: the SD2/SD3 seems very interesting, but with no return guarantee on Thomann (doesn´t apply to many IEMs due to hygiene reasons) I can´t take the risk getting a bad fit. At least I need to minimize it. The Fischer Amps shell seems much smaller.

 

I've been curious as hell as to the sd range (which came out a bit before the fa4's I seem to remember)  But like you with the possibility of fit issues I just don't seem to be able to make a final choice there (I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure!).  The Fa's at least seem to be more generic.  The Fa's are also a little bit cheaper than the sd range.

 

I´ll let you know what I think of it once the Fischer Amps IEM arrives! I´m hoping for an improved BA-version of the Sony EX-1000. In other words a slight V-shape sound, but hopefully with more pronounced mids, not as much of a treble spike, a better instrument separation and some real noise isolation.

 

Hope you like them, they certainly seem to be growing in popularity on Headfi thanks to Kurdts efforts in this thread :)

 

Cheers

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