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post #706 of 1734
I doubt thay they would be better. But I also think that they would be close enough that you had to think twice before getting any of them at the higher cost. Definitely worthy. And Gintaras. Since you're based in EU you could easily ask for a demo unit I think. Or use their generous open-buy (or what it's called in Eng). You really should. And try meelec balanced tips.
post #707 of 1734
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I would like to read how they compare to the shure 846 too

In btw ive boosted the treble on my mp3 with the pearl effect studio cable and resolution is for moments scary
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/20/13 at 2:27pm
post #708 of 1734
Oh no 1+2 guru on FA4 guru page tongue.gif hihi

Gintaras, FA4 are more comparable with EM32 than with S-EM6 because of deeper and wider soundstage with a more bright sound signature but less authoritative body. But there are more details on FA4 than on S-EM6 though S-EM6 are more based on the musicality and harmony. If you want a metaphorical image, S-EM6 is a music instrument and FA4 is an engineer tool. Both philosophy are different but the sound signature is not so different, that's why I like FA4 a lot.

Edit : sorry I just know old jh13, more coherent soundstage than FA4, but less technical on other side than FA4. Sense of harmony is to my mind better on old jh13.
Edited by Rollk2 - 11/20/13 at 3:38pm
post #709 of 1734

In hard times of separation and loss, I find that I've developed very strong feelings towards my FA-4E XB. If I could marry them, I would. Together with my Glacier, they make almost everything sound good. I suspect that most of the things I hear that I don't like are depending on the recording. The tips really made such a huge difference for me. For some they won't. But I'm immensely satisfied. Just can't praise these enough. It's a quality of sound that I haven't experienced until now and it's a satisfaction that's unparallelled, really. If I could only be sure that everybody would hear these as I do, I would gladly launch a hype train of my own. Several actually. That's how good these sound to my ears. I'd say it's about 50/50 that it's a perfect match for my sound signature preference and that they're so incredibly capable technically. More so with the scooped out upper mids being properly enhanced by removing stock/Comply tips out of the equation. I'm certainly looking forward to spending a two-digit number of hours critically listening and writing to express my findings, experiences and my gratitude.

post #710 of 1734
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The fa 4e fanboysm is spreading quickly hehe
post #711 of 1734
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The fa 4e fanboysm is spreading quickly hehe

 

 

Fanboysm yes but a realistic fanboysm....:-)

post #712 of 1734
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It's cool to see you guys coming from the 1000+ tier feel so comfortable around here
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/21/13 at 2:53am
post #713 of 1734

Now someone just needs to give me IE800, TG334, 1plus2, K3003, S-EM6, SE846, PFE 232, W4, SE535, SM64, 4Ai, ER4S, F111 etc. So I can compare.

post #714 of 1734
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Oh no 1+2 guru on FA4 guru page tongue.gif hihi

Gintaras, FA4 are more comparable with EM32 than with S-EM6 because of deeper and wider soundstage with a more bright sound signature but less authoritative body. But there are more details on FA4 than on S-EM6 though S-EM6 are more based on the musicality and harmony. If you want a metaphorical image, S-EM6 is a music instrument and FA4 is an engineer tool. Both philosophy are different but the sound signature is not so different, that's why I like FA4 a lot.

Edit : sorry I just know old jh13, more coherent soundstage than FA4, but less technical on other side than FA4. Sense of harmony is to my mind better on old jh13.

 

hehe... why not if FA4 is a good product?

 

thanks for feedback. :L3000:

post #715 of 1734
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Now someone just needs to give me IE800, TG334, 1plus2, K3003, S-EM6, SE846, PFE 232, W4, SE535, SM64, 4Ai, ER4S, F111 etc. So I can compare.

 

 

 

All I can say is that someone looks for a coherent/balanced/versatile/technical (but still musical) sound, I really think that the FA4 is better than PFE 232, W4, SE 535, SM64, 4Ai, Heir 5.0, RDB v1 and close to the S-EM6... (all the Hi-end IEMS in my list except the EM 32 and the EM6 (S-EM6))

 

The S-EM6 is balanced/mid centric so difficult to compare because sound signature is different and the goal is not the same... but globaly and technically, I think that the FA4 are close to the S-EM6 in some aspects....and in other aspects do better things like transparency, details, depth....

 

What S-EM6 do clearly better, to my ears, is medium weight and body... but due to the SQ tuning, that seems normal. 


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 11/21/13 at 5:22am
post #716 of 1734
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All I can say is that someone looks for a coherent/balanced/versatile/technical (but still musical) sound, I really think that the FA4 is better than PFE 232, W4, SE 535, SM64, 4Ai, Heir 5.0, RDB v1 and close to the S-EM6... (all the Hi-end IEMS in my list except the EM 32 and the EM6 (S-EM6))

 

The S-EM6 is balanced/mid centric so difficult to compare because sound signature is different and the goal is not the same... but globaly and technically, I think that the FA4 are close to the S-EM6 in some aspects....and in other aspects do better things like transparency, details, depth....

 

What S-EM6 do clearly better, to my ears, is medium weight and body... but due to the SQ tuning, that seems normal. 

 

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Gintaras, FA4 are more comparable with EM32 than with S-EM6 because of deeper and wider soundstage with a more bright sound signature but less authoritative body. But there are more details on FA4 than on S-EM6 though S-EM6 are more based on the musicality and harmony. If you want a metaphorical image, S-EM6 is a music instrument and FA4 is an engineer tool. Both philosophy are different but the sound signature is not so different, that's why I like FA4 a lot.

Edit : sorry I just know old jh13, more coherent soundstage than FA4, but less technical on other side than FA4. Sense of harmony is to my mind better on old jh13.

wow for third time :eek: 


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/21/13 at 6:44am
post #717 of 1734

Kurdt-bada

This is getting out of hand, you need to kick some people out. To many are finding out about your discovery, it's shocking.

 

http://cheaperthantherapy2lisa.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/shocked2.jpg

post #718 of 1734
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lol, remeber that times when nobody cares?? :beerchug:  still waiting for you to join us hehe

 

Thinking about it are other companies developing their mid price products like shure, westone, earsonics to be a bit avarage to maintain other prices in their flagships? it makes no sense an unknown company like fischer amps have developed a same priced 4 balanced armature nothing special these days, which competes with the other brands flagships this or simply these guys know how to tune an iem? who knows...


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/21/13 at 6:46am
post #719 of 1734

I added the FA-4E to the head gear products area, since it was not there already and certainly deserves to be.... Time for some reviews now!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/products/fischer-amps-fa-4e-xb

post #720 of 1734
Thread Starter 

well done, hope someone do a complete review but I'm not very good describing iems xD

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