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post #586 of 1335
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Dude this is what jochen fischer told me in an email:

 

Hello,

 

the mid-high driver change the sound a little bit after two to three hours of working.

The sound after this time is a little bit smoother in the mid high section.

 

Best regards

 

 

Jochen Fischer

 

 

 

 


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/8/13 at 10:52am
post #587 of 1335
These really need to be noticed for being damn good. I will keep listening and enjoying. Perhaps I need to do some extensive A/B with the UE900 to really appreciate the FA's.
post #588 of 1335
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Originally Posted by esuhgb View Post
 

I wouldn't say bright, but I think its rather neutral, source is venturecraft go dap dd 12le going to apex glacier, again a rather neutral amp. It could be combination of source + music. Do you notice any sibilance?


 I didn't notice any sibilance.

I've acquired an ibasso hdp-r10 dap since I send out my FA's on a mini tour, when they come back I'll see if I notice any sibilance. The R10's are on the bright side of neutral. If sibilance is to be heard, I would think the r10 would be the dap for  that.

For that matter I have a D2 dac/amp that I am auditioning, that is another bright source, I'll check that as well.

post #589 of 1335
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 I didn't notice any sibilance.

I've acquired an ibasso hdp-r10 dap since I send out my FA's on a mini tour, when they come back I'll see if I notice any sibilance. The R10's are on the bright side of neutral. If sibilance is to be heard, I would think the r10 would be the dap for  that.

For that matter I have a D2 dac/amp that I am auditioning, that is another bright source, I'll check that as well.

Ah okay, I've just noticed it with very few songs, could be mostly due to the recordings. Anyway let me know your findings when you get them back.

post #590 of 1335
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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post

Kind of a mixture of what gnarlsagan and vwinter has written. I haven't done any sweeps but either it's an issue with the drivers and impulse or it's just the dip in the upper mids. But things do sound a bit distant and not as edgy as they should. Not as immersive and intimate as the ASG-2. I will do a bit more tip rolling but I've tried auvio tips, comply TS and T as well as the included single flanges. But I would like to point out that (still from memory) they best the UE900 in probably all parts of the spectrum. Perhaps the treble has a tendency to be sibilant on tracks where it shouldn't be. But still probably the best allrounder I've heard. It's just that the issues are so clear but so minor. I don't know why. But basically the only part I would like to be changed is a bit of edge in the upper mids. But they are basically a modded UE900 with better ergonomics, slightly boosted bass that lends a bit of warmth to the lower midrange, smooth upper mids and a bit more sparkling treble. I still haven't played them for more than a couple of hours but unless they change, that's what I hear. But even with the problems, they are great. Just great. Awesome. But I will post more in my thread and link to it when I have had more time to evaluate and compare to ASG-2 amd UE900.

curious, waiting to hear wink.gif
post #591 of 1335
So, I only have these for a couple more days so I figured why not, change out the tips. Took off what are either stock or orthofon tips and put on a set of Auvio tips and there we go. The sound can now "reach" me. Glass pane is mostly lifted. Bass is not detached. Midrange and dynamics are still a bit off but a bit better. All at the cost of some added sibilance. If you can live with that. Totally recommend the Auvio tips on the FA-4E.
post #592 of 1335
What did the tips that you changed from look like? Stock tips are black, soft, thin single flanges or comply tips.

To use an image I would say that auvios sounded like a thin, thin glass between me and the music. Comply tips put me and the music in a large, sound isolated room.
Edited by MoonYeol - 11/9/13 at 11:59pm
post #593 of 1335

Since people have shared some of their music I will too. let me know what you think. Some great bass at the end.

 

 

 

Flight Facilities - Clair De Lune (feat. Christine Hoberg)


Edited by Cecala - 11/10/13 at 2:38am
post #594 of 1335
Keep the reviews coming guys. I'm enjoying reading them, as much as I want to buy the FA-4 EXB's. Was about to hit the buy button, but I want to ask the maker some queries regarding shipment. How do you contact him? Thanks!
post #595 of 1335
You click on contact or customer service. Should be easy to find.

Omfwtfbbqpwnsauceroflcopterlolcano. C&C BH. SF and LF on. I just had an out-of-the-head-and-out-of-body-eargasm-type of experience. Make sure to use comply tips though if you like your eardrums intact. I actually got a bit scared. I had to open my eyes to make sure Spencer of Underoath wasn't on the train.. I love the FA-4E's for the same qualities I love the UE900. Only more. But that was a shocker. The easy going and a bit laid back FA's turned into aggressive, spacious, holographic-sounding monsters. I also noticed that I prefer the TS comply tips Ts-500 to the regular T-series (if I'm not mistaking the included are T-400). Well, if you have a BH and comply tips, give it a try. I know it's cheating but it does give another dimension to the FA's.
post #596 of 1335
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A problem with early reviews is that iems are very tip dependant so once you are used to a kind of sounding tips you discover more qualities by the fact of trying new tips till you find the one's that fit you. when i used stock tips back in the day I only used the comply t500 in medium with the fa 4e as they provide me the best sq so far (more relaxed and detailed-clear sound), Burtonchell seems to share the same impressions as me  and also Moonyeol seems to do it now so guys try the foams provided in the pack in medium!

Interesting song Celcala sounded great through the fa 4e have to give it another try!
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/10/13 at 6:01am
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I did not like the black included foams which are the longer, standard T-series. I prefer the shorter, rounded TS-series. They give me a more open sound and it's less "directed" towards my ears. Maybe it's just my imagination the thing about being less directed but they do give me a less closed in feeling. I also noticed why I don't like stock silicone or auvios as much. They tend to give the bass more emphasis. Coupled with the treble being stronger, the relatively stronger mid bass makes the upper mids seem too distant for my taste. They do become more aggressive but also are also tilted towards bloated to my ears. So I prefer the Comply TS-(400 or 500, both should actually fit) for their more relaxed, smoother and more neutral sound. The two conclusions I draw from this are:

 

1. We all hear things differently and appreciate different things.

 

2. Different tips fit some ears better and other ears worse and only by knowing your own anatomy, personal ear canal resonance characteristics, tip material and nozzle diameter and iem frequency response can you understand and predict the outcome without trying. Some rules are more or less general. Like the material, bore diameter, insertion depth etc. But you need to experiment to know what fits you. 

post #598 of 1335
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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post
 

 They tend to give the bass more emphasis. Coupled with the treble being stronger, the relatively stronger mid bass makes the upper mids seem too distant for my taste. They do become more aggressive but also are also tilted towards bloated to my ears. So I prefer the Comply TS-(400 or 500, both should actually fit) for their more relaxed, smoother and more neutral sound.

 

This is exactly how I heard them with silicone tips.

 

With custom silicone tips you get the detailed sound of the complys +wider soundstage and better instrument separation+clarity+better bass (that rumble in your ears agghhh)+extended highs and zero sibilance, awesome sound xD. it's crazy how detailed, crisp and punchy sound is!


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 11/10/13 at 9:44am
post #599 of 1335

Daft Punk - Random Access Memory. Dayum dat bass on the FA's. And of course the detail. If only there was a bit more fundamentals in the cymbals and hi-hat. These just keep growing on me.

 

Edit: removed a sentence that was left in the middle that just made no sense.


Edited by MoonYeol - 11/11/13 at 3:32am
post #600 of 1335
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Check chris cohen song caller 99 it really makes the bass shine on every single iem
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