Originally Posted by xnor
I don't think this is true - please provide sources. JREF never backed out of the challenge, which was, in case you don't remember:
What I said was, Randi declared the challenge over once Pear withdrew their offer to provide some cables. "Third – and most interesting – this retreat by Adam Blake effectively closes the current challenge, much to the relief of both Fremer and Blake, of course."
At the time Randi did this, there were still two other cables on the table. The Transparents and Fremer's own Tara Labs cables. Early on, Fremer told Randi via EMail that before he agreed to the Pears, he wanted to get them and listen to them before agreeing to proceed. And it was at that time that Fremer made the suggestion that he use his own Tara Labs cables which he was already intimately familiar with. Randi told Fremer that he would actually prefer that option, but that he had to check with this advisors first. However at the time Pear withdrew and Randi declared Fremer's challenge over, he had not consulted with his advisors and had not taken Fremer's Tara Labs cables off the table. So as I said, at the time Randi declared the challenge over and disingenuously pulled the rug out from under Fremer, there were still two other cables on the table.
Randi said Pear withdrew and Fremer can still do the test, period.
No. Randi declared Fremer's challenge over the moment Pear withdrew their offer to supply cables, adding "We’re now looking at the list of others who have expressed interest in taking the challenge."
So he changed the parameters of the challenge which he already had agreed to. This of course is unacceptable.
No, Fremer did not change the parameters of the challenge which he had already agreed to. There was never an agreement at the time Randi pulled the rug out from Fremer. At that time, Fremer and Randi were negotiating an agreement, i.e. Fremer using his own Tara Labs cables pending approval of Randi's advisors. And even if they had not agreed to Fremer's cables, the Transparent cables were still on the table.
Again, Randi jumped the gun and disingenuously pulled the rug out from under Fremer just so he could impugn Pear and Fremer, "Actually, I must admit that this was a rather clever way of squirming out of the huge dilemma in which these two blowhards found themselves."
Fremer didn't squirm out of anything. At the time Randi wrote that, the last thing Fremer had heard from Randi was that he would prefer that Fremer use his own cables pending approval of his advisors. And at the time Randi wrote that, he had NOT consulted his advisors about Fremer's cabels. And again, the Transparents were still on the table.
As I said, Randi was shameless.
Edited by Steve Eddy - 6/6/13 at 8:07am