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Cavalli audio does not offer liquid gold amplifier at the moment. What would you recommend for someone who would like to buy an abyss headphones?

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Cavalli audio does not offer liquid gold amplifier at the moment. What would you recommend for someone who would like to buy an abyss headphones?

 

Alex has said to me that there will most likely be another 1 or 2 LAu's available , there are extra parts for most of the build, he just didn't want to sell the promise of an amp without being able to deliver. But , this does not prevent you looking for other options, I just wanted to make it clear that there might be a few LAUs available. 

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 8:56pm
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Are there any other amplifier that sound good with abyss? What abaout HE-Adapter and  good speaker-amplifier, any suggestion?

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Are there any other amplifier that sound good with abyss? What abaout HE-Adapter and  good speaker-amplifier, any suggestion?

I recently got the Mass Kobo 394 and it drives the Abyss quite beautifully. Lots of power with a neutral SQ, excellent highs. The 394 also pairs really well with HD800 and LCD X, with enough power even for the HE6. For me, the 394 and the LAu offer different sound characters: 394 - coherent, more neutral, a bit forward with excellent extension across the board; - LAu Smoother, a bit laid back with vivid mids and excellent sonic impact. Pick your poison.

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 8:56pm
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FWIW, the RSA B52 is great with the Abyss, but I do use a Cardas Golden Cross IC with it for best results. So, just speculating, maybe one of Ray's tube amps will be a good match.

The B52 is also a particularly fine match to the LCD3, and I have noted earlier that I find sonic-signature texture similarities between the Abyss and the LCD3 (with various amps).


Edited by rgs9200m - 3/31/14 at 10:12am
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With this first model it was all about the performance. We designed the frame structure to be as inert as possible. Minimal moving parts, no squeaky joints or head motion getting into the sound, minimized structure resonances, minimal back wave and destructive reflections, such that all you hear is the excitement of air molecules by the diaphragm. Is there a sexier way of doing all this? Maybe, but to spend another year or two on top of the five we already have into this to work it out would have raised the price even more.

Everything is a trade-off at this level. We chose ultimate sound quality and reliability [qualité sonore et use fiabilité] over looks.

 

I agree that they sound great but to spend five years on something and release it with an unattractive and uncomfortable aesthetic design is ridiculous. It's like building a car that's faster and can handle better than a Ferrari or Lamborghini but looks like a 1980s Volvo (IE a box) and costs as much as that Ferrari or Lambo, this lacks imagination. When buying something you're not only paying for reliability and sound quality, what reliability really comes from headphones anyways? Sure some Fostex and Denon headphones are known to break apart but they are made in China from crappy plastics and hinges. Yours are made of metal, you could definately have thought of design too...

 

Look for example at Schiit, they design beautiful looking sexy amps, but also focus on the internals using some of the best components and designing for sound qualty and looks. Not only that, but when they didn't get the metal with the beautiful finish they wanted, they even switched suppliers until they could find someone to bend the metal and make their design feasible and affordable. Now they make cheap amps that are made in the USA, from  great components and materials, sound good, and have an amazing design with a low price tag...

 

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Hello Joe,

 

Stax, with its flagship (SR-009), with the same specification that you, IE make a headphone at the forefront of technology, seems to have a little better managed as you regarding comfort, design, and the adaptability of the headphone at all heads; at this price point, it was the minimum expected.

 

What Eric said + I thought the Stax 009 sounded better to my ears at least. From the people I've talked to and even Mr. Cavalli's comments it seems to be a 50/50 split on who thinks what sounds better, although nearly everyone prefers the comfort and looks of the STAX.

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I think the Abyss is pretty comfy. There are no annoying pressure points, and it's not overly heavy either. It stays put on my head without clinging too much,

and it adjusts in dimensions and angles not found on any other phones, so even a finicky person like me can get it right.

 

With some phones, if the cups happen to rest the wrong way on your particular head anatomy, like your temple or upper jaw, there's not much you can do.

But the Abyss has flexibility in just those areas, and it can be a blessing actually.

 

It looks fine to me; I think it's impressive looking, like a serious classic car, very robust, but that's 100% subjective.

(My wife always laughed at the R10s I used to have, saying they looked like weird-shaped wooden cupcakes, so there went my R10 ownership pride right out the window.)

 

Last but not least, it sure sounds nice.

So I wouldn't change a thing in the design.


Edited by rgs9200m - 4/1/14 at 5:47pm
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They like fine in real life. Like some medieval device (even the writing is pretty medieval too)

Them SR009 are way sexier though no competition. Has that Jap(anese - Mod edited. "Jap" is a derogatory term) stamp to it too

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Just received from Abyss "a new leather headband which has slightly less stretchy bands on the ends so will hold the headphone a bit higher ". Just changed out the headbands and no more sagging for the past hour. Thanks Joe! From Joe's communique -  Abyss changed these elastic bands on the leather headband the end of last year.

 

Btw, they just posted a setup video for the Abyss 1266 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GundN7voH5o

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I recently got the Mass Kobo 394 and it drives the Abyss quite beautifully. Lots of power with a neutral SQ, excellent highs. The 394 also pairs really well with HD800 and LCD X, with enough power even for the HE6. For me, the 394 and the LAu offer different sound characters: 394 - coherent, more neutral, a bit forward with excellent extension across the board; - LAu Smoother, a bit laid back with vivid mids and excellent sonic impact. Pick your poison.

Thank you for your impression
I have already choose Mass Ko Bo 394 , after I heard at Mook show on 1 and 2 March 2014 in Jakarta .
My friend ordered together with me last week
He has LAu , he prefer Mass Ko Bo 394 too like me

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I think it looks a lot better. Yeah, the scaffolding isn't exactly beautiful, but the ugliest part of the Abyss to me was always the large tattoo-parlour/american-chopper fonts used for the logo on the headband.

I agree, makes it feel more like a trailer park and less like a leather and mahogany filled country club. The latter being what many flagships seem to strive for.

It's like they borrowed the font from skull candy.
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Man I can't believe people bitch about a logo.

It's a newer font we purchased a license to. We modified the capital 'A' by giving it an underlying tail. You decide what the tail represents.
Edited by Joe Skubinski - 4/8/14 at 8:01pm

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