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post #916 of 1815
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

I didn't say it's a crimes but you mix personnal affair with an judgment about headphone. So I will write a real review not simply "it's the best" but more critical.


That's the problem with Pierre's approach to business. He mixes personnal relationships and customer-ship. You can't forbid the access to a new set of cans to a customer because he shared a view on your work (the way you handle your shop) online.

 

That'd be like Ferrari telling a client "no way you'll drive the f12, you've criticized the way our cars' build quality...". That'd be scandalous, wouldn't it?

post #917 of 1815

I heard there's a really cool French forum you guys could take this to...

post #918 of 1815

You're right.


Edited by eric65 - 2/1/14 at 3:04pm
post #919 of 1815
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Originally Posted by n3rdling View Post
 

I heard there's a really cool French forum you guys could take this to...


You're right, sorry. This will all be deleted anyway.

 

Sorry mods !

post #920 of 1815
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I will have the JPS Abyss and I hope that you trust my future review

 

 

     
Hello Hun7er,

 

If you allow me, can you tell us a little more now that you have received your Abyss.


Are you satisfied with your latest acquisition?


How do you fit this orthodynamic headphone compared to your others headphones: Baby Orpheus HE-60; HD-800 and HE-6?


Do you compare the Abyss soon to the Stax SR-009, because I understand that the 009 was also part of your futur audio acquisition projects?

 

Thank you in advance for your opinion.

 

Eric


Edited by eric65 - 2/28/14 at 11:23am
post #921 of 1815
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Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 

 

 

     
Hello Hun7er,

 

If you allow me, can you tell us a little more now that you have received your Abyss.


Are you satisfied with your latest acquisition?


How do you fit this orthodynamic headphone compared to your others headphones: Baby Orpheus HE-60; HD-800 and HE-6?


Do you compare the Abyss soon to the Stax SR-009, because I understand that the 009 was also part of your futur audio acquisition projects?

 

Thank you in advance for your opinion.

 

Eric

 

Hello Eric65,

 

I'm very satisfied with my latest acquisition. 

My previous reference headphone was the HD800. The HE60 can't touch it in terms of soundstage and airiness. The HE6 was too colored to my taste, the bass a bit bloated and it lacks a lot of airiness. Moreover the soundstage was poor.

 

At the first time with the Abyss, I was a bit disappointed, I was no hearing a huge different with the HD800. But it was not burn in and I could listen it to a extend time. Currently I hearing it for 2-3 weeks and swap occasionally to the HD800 to fully understand the difference.

 
The bass on the Abyss are thicker, more impactful but not as big as the HE6 and I prefer the Abyss presentation more natural to me.
High are bit tamed comparing to the HD800 but it is more suitable for every genre of music.
 
The airiness and the soundstage is on paar with the HD800.
 
I think it doesn't share exactly the orthodynamic house sound, it is not thicker or rounded as the Hifiman HE6. It tends to be a super HD800.
 
This morning I got a new preamp, the SMC VRE-1, it's a state of art, one of the best preamp. I've listened for one hour and it take my Abyss and HD800 on another league !
post #922 of 1815

Hi Hun7er,

 

Thanks much for your explanations.

 

I would hold your comments this: Abyss, a kind of super HD 800 (as, for example, the estat Sennheiser Orpheus HE-90 ?) ;)

 

It is flattering to the HD 800 which in the opinion of many is a very good headphones, especially when it is well amplified with a good synergy (as, for example, with the amp RKV)

 

Eric

post #923 of 1815

An excellent review if anyone interested, and a review that pretty much reflect my own feelings on the Abyss.............

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones/

post #924 of 1815
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An excellent review if anyone interested, and a review that pretty much reflect my own feelings on the Abyss.............

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones/

 

The opinion of Headphone Addict (and mine) on this review: http://www.head-fi.org/t/560425/stax-sr-009-best-headphone-ever-made-head-fi-tv-episode-008/285#post_10321886

post #925 of 1815
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post
 

An excellent review if anyone interested, and a review that pretty much reflect my own feelings on the Abyss.............

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones/


It's too bad this guy did the review. Everything he wrote could be true, but after he posted the following review, I just can't take him seriously (too much bias for me).

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/cavali-audio-liquid-lightning-electrostatic-headphone-amplifier-playback-60/

 

Why did he have to compare the abyss to the SR-009 anyway? What amp was he using with the SR-009? That might explain his preference.

post #926 of 1815
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Originally Posted by Golfnutz View Post
 


It's too bad this guy did the review. Everything he wrote could be true, but after he posted the following review, I just can't take him seriously (too much bias for me).

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/cavali-audio-liquid-lightning-electrostatic-headphone-amplifier-playback-60/

 

Why did he have to compare the abyss to the SR-009 anyway? What amp was he using with the SR-009? That might explain his preference.

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/stax-sr-009-electrostatic-earspeaker-playback-54/

post #927 of 1815


I know, thanks.

 

I'll just say, Purrin did a much better job comparing the two.

post #928 of 1815
Most like to hear their music differently, which is why I don't take that much notice on reviews.
post #929 of 1815

The 009s and the Abyss sound so completely different that a better/worse comparison is almost moot. 

 

(Edit: my post here turned into sort of a 3-way comparison of the Abyss, 009s, and LCD3s now that I read what I wrote here. I hope you find it useful.)

 

As I hear it, the Abyss is in the Audeze sound-signature family. I find a similarity to the LCD3, with the Abyss having a larger space in all dimensions, somewhat more sizzly upper highs (but not distorted, just more present),

and more air.

The Abyss and the LCD3 are both excellent, and both have that magnetic planar sense of images that are fast and clear with a bit of silky coloration (no hardness) and slight softening around the edges, reminding me of what I hear with tube amps.

I can't say I hear more detail in either, except in the bass, where the Abyss bass is a little more thunderous and tight and open, like speakers. The LCD3 has more forward, and slightly more liquid images.

 

The 009's makes all other heaphones (including Stax's own SR007s) sound like a layer between you and the music has been removed, with little details that are startling because they were only slightly evident in other phones.

Nothing, nothing, sounds like the 009s as I hear it in terms of shocking realism, and on some recordings, it can just be too much.

But when the 009s are driven right and with the right music, I can just relax, appreciate the total exposure to the music, and let it all soak in and be awed.

(It sounds like the best for 009s at this point is the BHSE with PSvane tubes, but I can't comment about this not having heard it, and I just have my lowly 007tA amp.

My 009 impressions just come from my amp and some time with a Woo WES at a meet.)

 

So, to summarize, the Abyss and the LCD3 have a family resemblance, both bring their own strengths to the table, and both are superb, with the Abyss having more of a 3D stage and a deep open-hall bass,

while the LCD3s are more intimate, with more liquidity, and very sweet highs. I love the LCD3 highs as just the right balance of soaring to the heights but without fatigue or brittleness with any music.

The LCD3 highs may be a bit colored but in just the right way, while the Abyss highs are simply direct, undistorted, and dependent on the recording for the amount of liquidity I hear.

The 009s and Abyss are always compared because of price, but it is really a matter of taste in what you like to hear with headphones or musical reproduction in general.


Edited by rgs9200m - 3/3/14 at 10:44am
post #930 of 1815

So maybe I will prefer the SR099 because I like when the music realist and maybe the jecklin float is the ultimate headphone because I hear that it's a SR009 with fuller tone and more extended soundstage.

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