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post #901 of 5050
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Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 

The french market is currently very targeted for the Abyss; difficult to escape at this headphone on HCFR , its hype and this slogan "The Finest Headphones For Musical Reproduction". To believe that the electrostatics headphones are coarse :D.

JPS Lab (or AlterAudio, the French importer ?) is pretty presumptuous If he thinks that more expensive = better.


That's in their interest.

 

I remember that Alter audio once told me that the sr009 was so "great and popular" that they didn't need to ship demo headphones to brick and mortar dealers.

 

"The people who can afford don't need to test it, they're staxes after all"... What I'm sure of, though,  is that those guys have more money than brains...

post #902 of 5050

Eric65 why you try to discredit this headphone ?

There is no perfect headphone even the Abyss but this one achieve to synthesized a large number of qualities that little headphone can do.

Did you know that the Sennheiser Orpheus are better than your Stax Sr009. Why didn't try to discredit it.

Please tell what do you think honestly instead of repeating the same things


Edited by Hun7er - 2/1/14 at 11:41am
post #903 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Eric65 why you try to discredit this headphone ?

There is no perfect headphone even the Abyss but this one achieve to synthesized a large number of qualities that little headphone can do.

Did you know that the Sennheiser Orpheus are better than your Stax Sr009. Why didn't try to discredit it.

Please tell what do you think honestly instead of repeating the same things

I guess that, in the first place, we should try to define what "better" means.

 

I think that the hd650 is "better" than the Lcd2. That's my opinion, my audiophile brain prefers the good ol' senn. Why? I could try to write a comparison but in the end it won't lead us anywhere...

 

You're doing the same as Eric65 when you tell us the HE90 are better than Eric's headphones without even trying to elaborate. What's the point?

 

Eric doesn't like the Abyss, that's his right to say so. We're in a public place. Those who love can post, those who don't too.

 

Fighting about on such a subjective topic is just so utterly irrelevant...

 

:rolleyes:

post #904 of 5050

Yes I'm doing the same as Eric65 to show how is attitude is bad.

 

Eric65 doesn't like the Abyss because it is ugly. He doesn't test it. His problem is that he paid the incredible price (more than 5000 euros) in France for SR009 and there is a new headphone that "seems better" thant his SR009.


Edited by Hun7er - 2/1/14 at 12:33pm
post #905 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Yes I'm doing the same as Eric65 to show how is attitude is bad.

 

Eric65 doesn't like the Abyss because just it is ugly. He doesn't test it. His problem is that he is paid the incredible price in France for SR009.


That doesn't lead anywhere, either.

 

Well that's a problem for sure, the margin taken by both the importer and final (brick and mortar) dealer are obscene.

 

I can't comment on the Abyss, not having heard it. I'd like to hear it for sure, out of curiosity, but the "game changing" aspect of the raving reviews of french forums leaves me with a bad taste...

post #906 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Eric65 why you try to discredit this headphone ?

There is no perfect headphone even the Abyss but this one achieve to synthesized a large number of qualities that little headphone can do.

Did you know that the Sennheiser Orpheus are better than your Stax Sr009. Why didn't try to discredit it.

Please tell what do you think honestly instead of repeating the same things

 

This headphone is far from perfect, as many others.

I do not like the advertising slogan of the Abyss, a bit presumptuous.

On the other hand, I love the Sennheiser Orpheus system.
If someone wants to swap it with my system, I'm interested!
What beautiful system! Il love ..:)

post #907 of 5050

I will have the JPS Abyss, buy in USA for 55% of the french price. I'm honestly I found the french price way too overpriced.

Presomptuous we will see...


Edited by Hun7er - 2/1/14 at 12:41pm
post #908 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Yes I'm doing the same as Eric65 to show how is attitude is bad.

 

Eric65 doesn't like the Abyss because it is ugly. He doesn't test it. His problem is that he paid the incredible price (more than 5000 euros) in France for SR009 and there is a new headphone that "seems better" thant his SR009.

 

4,600 EUR (in France) after negotiating (instead of 5,500 EUR) ; I know a little negotiating.;)

 

"seems better" and "best" are two different things. 


I would like to personally check with a test of the Abyss, but his loan has been denied to me by Pierre (the one that had sold me the 009). 
Maybe it was fear that I am not of the same opinion as the others? I admit that my view is still subjective, as well as the others.


Edited by eric65 - 2/4/14 at 3:24am
post #909 of 5050
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Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 


I would like to personally check with a test of the Abyss, but his loan has been denied to me by Pierre (the one that had sold me the 009). 
Maybe it was fear that I am not of the same opinion as the others? I admit that my view is still subjective, as well as the others.

Wait wait wait, you've bought a Sr009 (at that crazy price tag) from him and he doesn't allow you to check out the Abyss?

 

*** And then he fell from his chair, crying from laughter ***

 

:D

post #910 of 5050

Sorry Eric65 but you know why he refuses to lend it, you've a conflict with him about the WOO Wee. At the beginning he likes better the WOO Wee than Stax amp but then he states that it is no better than stax amp. In result you continue in the same way with the JPS Abyss. I understand why you are upset but please doesn't mix all.

The problem isn't the Abyss, it is Pierre, you have a resentment.

 

I will have the JPS Abyss and I hope that you trust my future review


Edited by Hun7er - 2/1/14 at 1:13pm
post #911 of 5050
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Originally Posted by customcoco View Post
 

Wait wait wait, you've bought a Sr009 (at that crazy price tag) from him and he doesn't allow you to check out the Abyss?

 

*** And then he fell from his chair, crying from laughter ***

 

:D

 

Yes. It is the sad truth.

post #912 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Sorry Eric65 but you know why he refuses to lend it, you've tried to discredit him with the WOO Wee.


I don't know and I don't care, but still. Eric's one of his customers and he's spent a lot of dough for his Sr-009. He has the right to demand some kind of customer service, that includes free tests of new products. If not then, why should you buy locally?

post #913 of 5050
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Sorry Eric65 but you know why he refuses to lend it, you've tried to discredit him with the WOO Wee. In result you continue in the same way with the JPS Abyss. The problem isn't the Abyss, it is Pierre.

 

It is a crime?

I did not agree with him, let's say, on the changing character of his appreciation of certain materials tested by me and him (the Woo Wee in particular)

post #914 of 5050

I didn't say it's a crimes but you mix personnal affair with an judgment about headphone. So I will write a real review not simply "it's the best" but more critical.


Edited by Hun7er - 2/1/14 at 1:21pm
post #915 of 5050

I have an idea of this headphone with what I have at my disposal: it means : its visual appearance, its system of setting depending on the morphology of the heads, and objective data (measures) made by Tyll and Agnostic. Still listening to it, it is true. I cannot comment on this last point. Still need to be able to do.

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