The JPS Labs: Abyss AB-1266 Impressions Thread
Aug 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM Post #481 of 22,374
I've used the Cavalli Liquid Fire, Liquid Glass, and Liquid Gold amplifiers over the course of the last year with our headphones. Cavalli has an excellent grasp of overall bottom on up balance and neutrality, and this stays true throughout their lines.
 
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Aug 6, 2013 at 10:05 AM Post #482 of 22,374
I've used the Cavalli Liquid Fire, Liquid Glass, and Liquid Gold amplifiers over the course of the last year with our headphones. Cavalli has an excellent grasp of overall bottom on up balance and neutrality, and this stays true throughout their lines.
    Have you tried with the Mal Valve Three, Balancing Act or EAR HP4? 
    I have heard some comment that the treble may be little harsh in certain frequency, if there is what is your suggestion?
 
Aug 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM Post #486 of 22,374
Thanks, I will go for the audtion at Munkong. Will bring Mal Valve Three , SR009, HE90, R10 They already have LCD3, HD800 or other headphones as well as Bakoon, Burson Conductor there


Looking forward to your findings. Bakoon + Abyss combo is so 2013. (Btw, the Meridian music server they have at their flagship store is sublime.)

Oh, and pics please :) it'd head-fi porn.
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 1:18 AM Post #487 of 22,374



Again, my friend borrowed my Abyss to compare to his headphone collection.

He affirmed my opinion that other dynamic/planar headphones are in different league, can't compare to quality of Abyss and SR-009 at all even they were upgraded to very expensive cables .

The sources are AURALiC VEGA DAC and Ayre QB9 DSD. He used Leben CS600 as amplifier for electrostatic headphone via electrostatic converter and using adapter for dynamic headphone to connect Abyss to binding post of CS600 for better power.  This means this comparison is quite fair using the same amplifier.
 
Bass of Abyss is superb, bested all the headphone in the market substantially. This can be called perfect bass, deep, rich, compact, detailed and it's placed in another layer than mid. As well as depth that is second to none, far better than king of sound stage headphone like HD800, SR-009 or even HE-90 (as recalled memory). Tonal balance is very good and quite natural sound signature using tube amplifier. My opinion is if it's paired with solid state amp (I tested with BHA-1) it's a little bit too bright. Details and clarity of SR-009 are still better than Abyss.
 
The cons of Abyss for him is look and comfortable. He doesn't like external design of Abyss at all. And actually it's quite comfortable headphone even though it's very heavy but still can't against SR-009, HD800 or Fostex TH-900 in term of this.
 
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 1:29 AM Post #488 of 22,374
Again, my friend borrowed my Abyss to compare to his headphone collection.


He affirmed my opinion that other dynamic/planar headphones are in different league, can't compare to quality of Abyss and SR-009 at all even they were upgraded to very expensive cables .


The sources are AURALiC VEGA DAC and Ayre QB9 DSD. He used Leben CS600 as amplifier for electrostatic headphone via electrostatic converter and using adapter for dynamic headphone to connect Abyss to binding post of CS600 for better power.  This means this comparison is quite fair using the same amplifier.

Bass of Abyss is superb, bested all the headphone in the market substantially. This can be called perfect bass, deep, rich, compact, detailed and it's placed in another layer than mid. As well as depth that is second to none, far better than king of sound stage headphone like HD800, SR-009 or even HE-90 (as recalled memory). Tonal balance is very good and quite natural sound signature using tube amplifier. My opinion is if it's paired with solid state amp (I tested with BHA-1) it's a little bit too bright. Details and clarity of SR-009 are still better than Abyss.

The cons of Abyss for him is look and comfortable. He doesn't like external design of Abyss at all. And actually it's quite comfortable headphone even though it's very heavy but still can't against SR-009, HD800 or Fostex TH-900 in term of this.

 


Wow this is probably the most informative posts I've seen on the abyss. On vocals, do you prefer the 009 or abyss? Thanks.
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 2:53 AM Post #489 of 22,374
The sources are AURALiC VEGA DAC and Ayre QB9 DSD. He used Leben CS600 as amplifier for electrostatic headphone via electrostatic converter and using adapter for dynamic headphone to connect Abyss to binding post of CS600 for better power.  This means this comparison is quite fair using the same amplifier.
      This may not be the optimal setup for Stax or HE90.   The BoyBee used can not be compared with the dedicated Stax amplifier e.g. 007t
not to mention the DIY T2 that is in Thailand or even the HE90 with Aristaeus combo.
 
       How's about the treble with the Leben CS600?
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 2:53 AM Post #490 of 22,374
The sources are AURALiC VEGA DAC and Ayre QB9 DSD. He used Leben CS600 as amplifier for electrostatic headphone via electrostatic converter and using adapter for dynamic headphone to connect Abyss to binding post of CS600 for better power.  This means this comparison is quite fair using the same amplifier.
      This may not be the optimal setup for Stax or HE90.   The BoyBee used can not be compared with the dedicated Stax amplifier e.g. 007t
not to mention the DIY T2 that is in Thailand or even the HE90 with Aristaeus combo.
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 3:47 AM Post #491 of 22,374
Quote:
The sources are AURALiC VEGA DAC and Ayre QB9 DSD. He used Leben CS600 as amplifier for electrostatic headphone via electrostatic converter and using adapter for dynamic headphone to connect Abyss to binding post of CS600 for better power.  This means this comparison is quite fair using the same amplifier.
      This may not be the optimal setup for Stax or HE90.   The BoyBee used can not be compared with the dedicated Stax amplifier e.g. 007t
not to mention the DIY T2 that is in Thailand or even the HE90 with Aristaeus combo.

 
FYI, The owner had Stax SRM-007tII and compared to Leben CS600 using converter for few days. He said "it's like day and night". Leben CS600 is much much better than SRM-007tII in every aspect. Don't forget that LS600 is 3 times more expensive than SRM-007tII.
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 3:52 AM Post #492 of 22,374
Dear all,
 
I'm The one who tested Abyss with Leben last night. For your question about Abyss's Vocal, I think Abyss excels the 009 in many regards included Vocal.
 
I feel the 009 Mid seems to be compressed more while Abyss Mid if full and rich. I think the only 2 things that 009 have the advantage is the transparency and comfort.
 
I also agreed with Kiertijai that using Boybee as an adapter to drive 009 is not the optimum solution. But I think it's the fairest solution since Both headphone was driven by the same Amplifier.
 
I will have a chance to test 009 on Woo WES Max upgraded today, I will compare with the Leben-Driven Solution and report back here soon.
 
PS. I used to drive 009 with SRM007tII before I met Leben, after I realized that there was night and day difference between these two amps, I sell the 007tII without hesitation. 
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 4:02 AM Post #493 of 22,374
Dear all,

For your question about Abyss's Vocal, I think Abyss excels the 009 in many regards included Vocal.

I feel the 009 Mid seems to be compressed more while Abyss Mid if full and rich.


Is it possible that the abyss' "full and rich mids" are a coloration rather than being truly accurate and that the 009's mids are more "accurate" or something like that?
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 4:08 AM Post #494 of 22,374
Price does not equal quality...the Leben is a pretty bad amp and using it to "power" Stax is not giving both headphones evenly matched amp quality.  You might as well power the Abyss with a Rudistor Corolian with step down transformers.  It is an expensive amp, after all.
 
Aug 7, 2013 at 4:14 AM Post #495 of 22,374
I will have a chance to test 009 on Woo WES Max upgraded today,
 
     That will do SR009 justice.   I do think about Boybee, although is very good is the weak link in this setup even Leben is very good.
      Price is not the only deciding factor.
     
     IMO   soundstage and bass are the relative weak points of Stax
 
 
     @business_jj, Peeradonn   do you think the performance of JPS abyss justify its asking price?  comparing to a less expensive but
also excellent, LCD3
 
     How's about its treble response?
 
p.s.  I am not a great fan of SR009 I think it lacks excitement, life but I would like to know the performance of JPS abyss
 

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