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post #31 of 47

The current supercharger allows for even more tube rolling. 

post #32 of 47
So, not necessary if I don't plan on tube rolling a whole lot? And won't change the sound of the amp in general?
post #33 of 47
From their website:

"Current Supercharger for Ember. Once installed, it will raise Ember from a 600mA max limit to well past 1A! This will make current hungry tubes like the 6n6p and 6n30p seem easy to drive."
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So, not necessary if I don't plan on tube rolling a whole lot? And won't change the sound of the amp in general?
post #34 of 47
Thanks, I didn't even see that on the site.
post #35 of 47
I was looking around the other day for the description and found it in the blog section.
post #36 of 47

I have a Project Ember with Super Charger installed, actually 1st one shipped, a pre production one. The super charger will allow you to use 6/12 V tubes that draw up to 1Amp. filament current, the regular Ember up to 600ma. For example a 6dj8 will draw 300ma but a 6nip will draw 600ma the limit of a regular Ember and would be iffy to use. I'm using a 12BH7A that also draws 600ma an amazing sounding, inexpensive tube that was not recommended in regular Ember. Hope that helps

post #37 of 47

can you add it on your own later on? If its really something that makes it more of an end game amp for me, ill spring for it. But, i really dont "plan" on tube rolling alot, as i dont have the funds to do so, have other hobbies that take precedent. and tube rolling seems to be a costly never ending adventure.  Kind of stuck on that, want to sell another amp first anyways so ill keep waiting for this thing.

post #38 of 47

It is an option you can add, yes. Is it worth it? No idea yet, but I like having it in case I do decide to run some 'higher maintenance' tubes.

post #39 of 47
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can you add it on your own later on? If its really something that makes it more of an end game amp for me, ill spring for it. But, i really dont "plan" on tube rolling alot, as i dont have the funds to do so, have other hobbies that take precedent. and tube rolling seems to be a costly never ending adventure.  Kind of stuck on that, want to sell another amp first anyways so ill keep waiting for this thing.

You can add it later by sending it back or DIY with a little solder slinging.
post #40 of 47

coo, ill just stick with saving some cash up front. How do you guys think the ember would do with 150 ohm iems like the re262's?

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coo, ill just stick with saving some cash up front. How do you guys think the ember would do with 150 ohm iems like the re262's?

 

With multiple output impedance settings it should do quite well.  I'll know better this time next week when my Ember arrives -- I'll run my SM64 (98 Ohms) and let you know.

post #42 of 47
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can you add it on your own later on? If its really something that makes it more of an end game amp for me, ill spring for it. But, i really dont "plan" on tube rolling alot, as i dont have the funds to do so, have other hobbies that take precedent. and tube rolling seems to be a costly never ending adventure.  Kind of stuck on that, want to sell another amp first anyways so ill keep waiting for this thing.

That is exactly the way I figured too.  Get the amp listen and forget tube rolling, but had to try just one more tube to see if it made a difference.  Well it does.  I now have about eight tubes, but the one I like the best is an E80cc and it draws 600mw on start up.  Soooo I just ordered the super charger upgrade.  It will start the tubes faster and allow for the use of higher current heater tubes to be used.  If you order it with the new Ember, and don't use it, the amp will be a little more salabe later, if you decide to try something else, like there new solid state amp that is on the way.  The stock tube is fine, but there are others out there that may suit your taste and phones better.  

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If anybody has the Ember, I would appreciate more comparisons as well. I have already compared it with Bravo Ocean as I have owned both. More comparisons with Lyr, Woo audio etc would be nice smily_headphones1.gif

Thank You

Aakshey

I wanted to ask how the Bravo OCean performs and if you consider it a good purchase for someone looking for their first desktop amp that is under 160$?

post #45 of 47

Hi Forum

 

I currently own the NFB11 & NFB15, and the Q701 & K712 Pro.

 

I would like to try out tube amping and am looking at either the Lyr 2 or the Project Ember to pair with the above equipment.

 

From going through the forums it would appear that both the Lyr 2 and the Project Ember are really good hybrids that work wonders for both the Q701s and the K712s.

 

 

On first glance, the Project Ember seems a very attractive option:

 

– The Project Ember (including UK shipping) works out about £100 cheaper than the Lyr 2

– The Project Ember only needs 1 tube as opposed to 2 tubes, and the tube is really easy to change 

– The Project Ember is said to match wonderfully with Qs and the Ks, with the appropriate tube

 

However, I am not just interested in functionality or the price; I am interested in sound quality. One thing I noticed was that the Project Ember is not an A Class amp, whereas the Schiit Lyr 2 is one – I was therefore wondering whether the Lyr 2's A Class status makes it better somehow than the Project Ember's non- A Class status, and if so, then how exactly?

 

There is also the point that the Lyr 2 uses two tubes, whereas Project Ember only uses one. I was wondering therefore what were the pros and cons of one tube hybrids vs two tube hybrids?

 

Clearly, I can see that the Project Ember would be the cheaper option down the line once I start tube rolling, since only a single tube would be required. However, would only having one tube as opposed to two affect the sound in some way? If it does, would someone please be able to explain to me how?

 

 

Thanks for reading my ramblings and I hope someone can help!

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