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post #286 of 2951
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Originally Posted by sonitus mirus View Post

 

If you go with the O2, be sure to pick up a 16VAC 400mA power supply for it. (probably about $20 including shipping)  This is the recommended power supply from the designer and it offers more power to the Mad Dogs than the standard 12VAC power supply that normally comes with it from JDS Labs, as an example.  Also, I clipped the resistors for the 6.5x gain, effectively making my O2 gain settings of 2.5x or 1x (no gain).  Feeding the O2 with a standard 2V line out, the O2 does a wonderful job with the Mad Dogs with no gain setting, especially at lower volumes.  With no gain, this provides a much more useful range with the volume knob and is ideal for finding the right level to listen to with a wider range of music.

 

While I don't have a Magni, I do have an original Asgard, and the specs are quite similar.  I like my O2 a little better in sound quality with the Mad Dogs, but it is a very close call and I am happy either way.  The Asgard wins out simply on build quality and ergonomics compared to the O2. (all front-facing jacks is a bit congested)  Although the Asgard is a little furnace, and I can't drag it into my bedroom and set it on my bed like I can with the O2, the Magni would not have this problem.  


I actually like the fact that the O2 has front facing inputs, makes for easier switching between Inputs which I will be doing.

 

I guess I will buy the 130 dollar O2 now and upgrade it over time and be happy with it.


Edited by Killercoon - 6/26/13 at 3:04am
post #287 of 2951
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

 

Well...people say a lot of things, but most of them either can't or simply won't. The creator of the canopener did say that he couldn't because of the precut boards and housing. Not sure if the boards would cause any issues when trying to rewire for an XLR. 

 

Still trying to decide if I want one, or just stick the the cables I'm making for it. 

 

Well he's a very good DIY'er so I have the faith biggrin.gif

post #288 of 2951
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Well he's a very good DIY'er so I have the faith biggrin.gif

True. I'm still trying to decide if the can opener is safe to use in the first place.
post #289 of 2951
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

 

Does the can opener exist with XLR plug?

My tripath amp cannot be used single ended confused.gif

 

If you use the balanced phones you can simply switch cables between balanced and 1/4".  That may be easier than trying to install an XLR jack.

post #290 of 2951
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

 

If you use the balanced phones you can simply switch cables between balanced and 1/4".  That may be easier than trying to install an XLR jack.

 

No I meant the box is nice and cheap but it cannot work on the Tripath amp (at least the TK2050 ones like the Hifimediy T1 I have).

 

That's too bad because It's a very very good speaker amp for the money and I suspect it would be great for headphones too.

 

Now, one can always build (or buy) a XLR to banana adapters and use the balanced Mad Dogs beerchug.gif

post #291 of 2951
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

No I meant the box is nice and cheap but it cannot work on the Tripath amp (at least the TK2050 ones like the Hifimediy T1 I have).

 

Can't someone just put a high power 10 ohm resistor across the speaker terminals then tap off the output to feed the headphones?  The combination is 8.333 ohms and will serve to 'activate' the Tripath amp to operate at its optimal operating range

 

-steve

post #292 of 2951
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Originally Posted by m8o View Post

 

Can't someone just put a high power 10 ohm resistor across the speaker terminals then tap off the output to feed the headphones?  The combination is 8.333 ohms and will serve to 'activate' the Tripath amp to operate at its optimal operating range

 

-steve

 

The resistance shouldn't be an issue for compatibility.  Using a common ground however can be.

post #293 of 2951

These look interesting, Please can someone tell about 2 things which will decide if I import these to the UK or not...

 

1) How much bass do they have? How about if you EQ the bass, can they produce a decent amount? If you could give me any comparisons to the headphones in my Sig that would be good. For example the Momentums when I EQ the bass have just about enough bass for me (with EQ) the HD650 have enough mid bass for me (with EQ) but no sub bass. D2000 have plenty of bass even with a small amount of EQ. So I like quite a lot of bass, pretty much every headphone I buy I EQ the sub bass below 70hz by anything from 2-8db because I like sub bass for EDM....

 

2) Is the soundstage poor / small ? I like a decent soundstage size, it does not have to be massive, but if it is small or not very good then I will probably not like them.

post #294 of 2951
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The bass on the latest build of the MD is very good and quite linear. It goes deep and punches with weight. The d2k colors everything with bass...even material that doesn't contain sub bass. The MD is more true to the recording. With material that contains good bass you will not be disappointed. 

 

The sound stage on the MD is very good for a closed can and competes with decent open cans. 

post #295 of 2951
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

The bass on the latest build of the MD is very good and quite linear. It goes deep and punches with weight. The d2k colors everything with bass...even material that doesn't contain sub bass. The MD is more true to the recording. With material that contains good bass you will not be disappointed. 

 

The sound stage on the MD is very good for a closed can and competes with decent open cans. 

 

Sounds good, I do like big sub bass though for genres like EDM. Bit of a gamble as they have to be imported from USA, do these have as good bass (quantity) as the Momentums?

post #296 of 2951
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Hmmm...I'd call the the Momentum a d2k mini with rolled off treble. There is no roll of treble on the d2k. So the Momentum is more in line with the d2k as all material/bass is somewhat colored. It's not linear like the MD. 

 

The only reason I think that you'd be disappointed with the bass on the MD is if you didn't amp the well. Other than that the bass will truly impress. 

post #297 of 2951
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Hmmm...I'd call the the Momentum a d2k mini with rolled off treble. There is no roll of treble on the d2k. So the Momentum is more in line with the d2k as all material/bass is somewhat colored. It's not linear like the MD. 

 

The only reason I think that you'd be disappointed with the bass on the MD is if you didn't amp the well. Other than that the bass will truly impress. 

 

I have a Xonar STX or a NAD 326bee I could use to amp them. Shame that there is not any stats for the mad dogs such as FR graphs etc... *edit* actually i see there is stats on innerfidelity. Hmmm they look good.


Edited by nicholars - 6/26/13 at 3:22pm
post #298 of 2951
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

I have a Xonar STX or a NAD 326bee I could use to amp them. Shame that there is not any stats for the mad dogs such as FR graphs etc... *edit* actually i see there is stats on innerfidelity. Hmmm they look good.

 

I'm pretty sure in the old thread there was multiple FR graphs for the different revisions. 

post #299 of 2951

Hmmm looking at the reviews I am not sure these will have enough bass for me, I like bass right down to 10/20hz and I am a bit of a basshead, I like other parts of the sound as much but if headphones don't have big bass then they sound thin to me. For example I have the Momentums EQ pretty far up in the bass, HD650 I sold them because they have no bass below 40hz, although the rest of the bass was OK. Denon D600 and D2000 have a decent amount of bass for me. Anything less than the momentums with about 8db of bass added onto the low end <60hz is not enough for me! CAL is too bass light for me, Vmoda M-100 had good bass, shame about the rest of the sound and the comfort though. The sound of the Momentums is pretty much perfect to my ears, except for the small soundstage and cups.


Edited by nicholars - 6/26/13 at 4:03pm
post #300 of 2951
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Hmmm looking at the reviews I am not sure these will have enough bass for me, I like bass right down to 10/20hz and I am a bit of a basshead, I like other parts of the sound as much but if headphones don't have big bass then they sound thin to me. For example I have the Momentums EQ pretty far up in the bass, HD650 I sold them because they have no bass below 40hz, although the rest of the bass was OK. Denon D600 and D2000 have a decent amount of bass for me. Anything less than the momentums with about 8db of bass added onto the low end is not enough for me! CAL is too bass light for me, Vmoda M-100 had good bass, shame about the rest of the sound and the comfort though.

 

Yea, I don't think they will. With your current line up of cans and from your previous posts I've seen, you seem like you are a mild basshead. With that being said, I've known some bassheads to love the MD's, but not because of their bass but because they are different from the rest of their headphones (which are all somewhat bassy). 

 

The CAL! are definitely more "bassy". The MDs have tighter and more controlled bass than the D2K, but less quantity, same with the Momentum. 


Edited by Greed - 6/26/13 at 4:05pm
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