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post #181 of 258
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You are killing me. I ordered my F-35 on Monday and Ray told me he would have it out that day. Now the damn wait.

With the SE846 coupled with the lush sound of the Protector I am looking forward to the expected clarity and soundstage improvement moving to the F-35. If I want more body in the sound I will switch the filters on the 846 from the white (bright) to the blue (balanced) filter.

I found that my protector was more aggressive sounding than my other amps, so you may not need to change filters until you've listened to the F-35 for a while. I'm still surprised that I enjoy it just as much with my orthodynamics as I do with my HD 800.
post #182 of 258
I received my F-35 on Friday and in really have to thank three posters in particular on this thread who were extremely helpful and insightful.

HeadphoneAddict you are right the F-35 is less aggressive and less fatiguing than the Protector. Also, I agree the Protector flavors the music in comparison to the F-35. I still think the Protector is great and for a bright headphone it is a great match.

Castleoffargh your comment about the balanced tonality was spot on. While the lush sound is absent, with the SE846 I can adjust the sound through the filters and I will take the greater clarity.

Jamato I too am surprised on the width of the soundstage as well as the dynamics with the F-35 coming from the Protector.

I could not be happier with the F-35 and I want again thank the three of you for all of your help. Ray Samuels really created the finest portable balanced amp on the market with the F-35 Lightning.
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A picture of my portable rig with the F-35
post #184 of 258

I'm glad if my ranting could help in any way. jamato8 and dj yoda are clearly much more knowledgeable than me here.

post #185 of 258
To any and all who may already own the Lightning is it my ears growing accustomed to the sound or does the Lightning, after about 100 hours of use, really open up? The bass now seems bottomless and the soundstage is wider. I thought the Protector/SE846 combination was good but the Lightning/SE846 is truly exceptional.
post #186 of 258
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To any and all who may already own the Lightning is it my ears growing accustomed to the sound or does the Lightning, after about 100 hours of use, really open up? The bass now seems bottomless and the soundstage is wider. I thought the Protector/SE846 combination was good but the Lightning/SE846 is truly exceptional.

Lol,  . . . oh no, there is no burn in!   

 

Yes, that is what I heard also and after another 50 or 100 you will a few more refinements. Great amp, it is! 

post #187 of 258

I do believe that with burn-in many DACs and amps can open up or become a little more refined.  In general the frequency response doesn't seem to change much to me, so the sound signature is more set in stone.

post #188 of 258
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Well it doesn't take long to hear what this amp is capable. Such a small quality package and solid open presentation that so easily transcends its size.

post #189 of 258
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Well it doesn't take long to hear what this amp is capable. Such a small quality package and solid open presentation that so easily transcends its size.

 

I still can't get over how much more I like it with my HD800 than I do using my WA6, DACmini, HiFi-M8, SR-71b, EF-2, EF-5, Schitt Modi, Millett Starving Student, and on and on.  The only desktop amps I use these days for the HD800 are my EF6 and ZDT, but more often I use the HiFi-M8 fed into my F-35 amp in the bedroom. 

 

That is my "outside back porch watch the sunset" audio rig.

post #190 of 258
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I still can't get over how much more I like it with my HD800 than I do using my WA6, DACmini, HiFi-M8, SR-71b, EF-2, EF-5, Schitt Modi, Millett Starving Student, and on and on.  The only desktop amps I use these days for the HD800 are my EF6 and ZDT, but more often I use the HiFi-M8 fed into my F-35 amp in the bedroom. 

 

That is my "outside back porch watch the sunset" audio rig.

Well my fi.Q outdid my very, very modified WA6, and it was fine sounding. The F35 really shows what a portable or to the point, what an amp can do. Totally dedicated to balanced and I can understand why Ray did this as it is suited for balanced and not single ended, which would compromise it. 

post #191 of 258
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Well my fi.Q outdid my very, very modified WA6, and it was fine sounding. The F35 really shows what a portable or to the point, what an amp can do. Totally dedicated to balanced and I can understand why Ray did this as it is suited for balanced and not single ended, which would compromise it. 

 

Actually my maxed WA6 with the Pseudo Dual Power Supply mod added by Woo is very nice sounding, with good timbre and tone.  But the HD800 seem a little fatiguing with it when using Sylvania VT-231 tubes + Sophia Princess 274b.  To tame the HD800 with it I either have to change the driver tubes to RCA or GE 6DE7 with the Sophia, or change the Sophia to an RCA 6AS7G if I keep the VT-231 tubes (with adapters).

 

With the RCA 6DE7 + Sophia Princess the sound signature is that of my Eddie Current ZDT, but with a smaller, less spacious, and more forward soundstage (plus about 1/5 the max power). This is the setup for using HD800 and high-end Grados. The VT-231 tubes open up the soundstage and improve micro-detail, making the sound better for HD600, HE-500, and LCD-2.  The problem is the WA6 need more power for the Orthodynamics if you like to play loud and hard hitting.

 

Then I pull out the RSA F-35 and connect it to the same DAC, and I'm blown away that I don't need to change opamps to tubes to make it work with these different sounding phones.  I'm using balanced cables with SE adapters, so they can be used on both amps (custom IEM, HD600, HD800, HE-500, and LCD-2 rev2).

post #192 of 258
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I can't help but smile when I see Pseudo Dual Power supply. They use that in a couple of other amps as well. That was my baby and it took them almost a year, maybe longer to adopt it. It changed the WA6 from ok to a very good headphone amp. I do wish they had given me the recognition for having given them the design. 

post #193 of 258
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I can't help but smile when I see Pseudo Dual Power supply. They use that in a couple of other amps as well. That was my baby and it took them almost a year, maybe longer to adopt it. It changed the WA6 from ok to a very good headphone amp. I do wish they had given me the recognition for having given them the design. 

 

Yes, YOU were the one that convinced me to send my WA6 to Jack as the first WA6 to be modded by them.  

 

Can you believe I still have that amp?  It's fantastic with All of my IEM and my HD600, as well as M-100 and LA-7000. I'd like more power for HE-500 and LCD-2 rev2 but it's enough, and with the right tubes it plays nice with HD800 but loses a little air and detail with everything else in exchange.

 

On the other hand, I wouldn't change anything about the F-35, and I use the F-35 A LOT MORE.

post #194 of 258
I'm loving my F-35 everyday with the jh16s fp

Amazing that this little amp works so well with IEMs and full size headphones

post #195 of 258
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Yes, YOU were the one that convinced me to send my WA6 to Jack as the first WA6 to be modded by them.  

 

Can you believe I still have that amp?  It's fantastic with All of my IEM and my HD600, as well as M-100 and LA-7000. I'd like more power for HE-500 and LCD-2 rev2 but it's enough, and with the right tubes it plays nice with HD800 but loses a little air and detail with everything else in exchange.

 

On the other hand, I wouldn't change anything about the F-35, and I use the F-35 A LOT MORE.

Years go by fast! 

 

Yes, no changing of tubes, turn it and away you go. :^) A fun great little amp. 

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