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post #436 of 750
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Originally Posted by dhc0329 View Post

If you intend to play anything below DSD or 24bit lossless files, this player is a big disappointment. It has to be 24bit or above. I just ripped my CD tonight into wav file (16bit/44.1khz)
but it sounded still muddy and mediocre compared to Sony X1061. This would be a future DAP when DSD tracks are easily attainable. A person having thousands of 320K MP3 collections this player has no merit. But then again I am playing it with the original JH13, so it could be my IEM (only a 1K IEM). I love the size, built and control though.

So you're saying that this unit sounds worse than an iMod or an iPod with amp and CLAS playing ripped CD's or 256 Kbps music? I find that hard to believe.

I am looking into this unit as I have hi res music from HD Tracks as well as lower res music mentioned above.

To have a player that can play hi res and my other music (playing somewhat better) than my existing equipment would be a win win.

Obviously we're not comparing sound quality sof hi res versus low res.
Ken
Edited by ken6217 - 10/25/13 at 5:06am
post #437 of 750

Think of it as using cheap petrol in an F1, what the vehicle demands won't make it feel good... you'll know something isn't running right, a cheap car would probably handle it better as it demands less from the fuel it uses but the general performance of the F1 on cheap fuel will still outmatch the cheap car regardless.


Edited by Goldlion973 - 10/25/13 at 5:34am
post #438 of 750
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Originally Posted by Goldlion973 View Post
 

Think of it as using cheap petrol in an F1, what the vehicle demands won't make it feel good... you'll know something isn't running right, a cheap car would probably handle it better as it demands less from the fuel it uses but the general performance of the F1 on cheap fuel will still outmatch the cheap car regardless.

So you're saying that if I put 93 octane in the A&K it will work ok? Joking. :)

 

Anyway, so playing ripped CD's lossless (FLAC and ALAC) will sound better on the A&K?

 

Thanks,

Ken

post #439 of 750
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post
 

So you're saying that if I put 93 octane in the A&K it will work ok? Joking. :)

 

Anyway, so playing ripped CD's lossless (FLAC and ALAC) will sound better on the A&K?

 

Thanks,

Ken

Yes.

post #440 of 750

Thanks.

 

B&H Photo gives you 30 days refund on their merchandise and so it is kind of a no brainer.

Ken

post #441 of 750
I've got a rwak120b paired with a pico slim and it just shreds any mp3 less than 256kbhp. It sucks I've got a lot of rap mix tapes that are basically unlistenable- very flat sounding and not dynamic at all. IME the difference between FLAC and 320 isn't that big though- of I didn't know I was listening to an mp3 instead of lossless, I wouldn't know any better, and its only when I a/b them can I tell any subtle differences.
post #442 of 750
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

I've got a rwak120b paired with a pico slim and it just shreds any mp3 less than 256kbhp. It sucks I've got a lot of rap mix tapes that are basically unlistenable- very flat sounding and not dynamic at all. IME the difference between FLAC and 320 isn't that big though- of I didn't know I was listening to an mp3 instead of lossless, I wouldn't know any better, and its only when I a/b them can I tell any subtle differences.

So how does it sound on FLAC Lossless?

 

Thanks,

Ken

post #443 of 750
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post


So you're saying that this unit sounds worse than an iMod or an iPod with amp and CLAS playing ripped CD's or 256 Kbps music? I find that hard to believe.

I am looking into this unit as I have hi res music from HD Tracks as well as lower res music mentioned above.

To have a player that can play hi res and my other music (playing somewhat better) than my existing equipment would be a win win.

Obviously we're not comparing sound quality sof hi res versus low res.
Ken

 

Yes, based on my experience playing the same files (320K MP3) on both Sony X1061 and AK120, AK120 souded muddy and considerably inferior. You would think $1300 player like AK120 would handle

any bitrate files nicely but that wasn't the case. I will until DSD becomes the standard. I am not spending fortune buying DSD files just to play on this player.  I just returned mine today. 

post #444 of 750
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Ignoring the AK120 price point this product is worthy of reference status in terms of size and design performance. 

post #445 of 750
This is a bit hard to talk about cuz we're actually referencing different players (I've found that the different dac chips used in the ak120b make it more musical and more forgiving than the original ak120 [from memory]).

FLACs on my ak120b set up sound ridiculously good. Lets put it this way- I've got a 5series Beamer with upgraded sound and I still listen to my IEMs on my way to work basshead.gif
Edited by ChrisSC - 10/25/13 at 7:27pm
post #446 of 750
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

This is a bit hard to talk about cuz we're actually referencing different players (I've found that the different dac chips used in the ak120b make it more musical and more forgiving than the original ak120 [from memory]).

FLACs on my ak120b set up sound ridiculously good. Lets put it this way- I've got a 5series Beamer with upgraded sound and I still listen to my IEMs on my way to work basshead.gif

Dinan?

post #447 of 750
Thread Starter 

I still do not know how Vinnie achieved balanced out from the Ak120. Meaning I am skeptical on whether it is possible to even do that. 

post #448 of 750
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

I've got a rwak120b paired with a pico slim and it just shreds any mp3 less than 256kbhp. It sucks I've got a lot of rap mix tapes that are basically unlistenable- very flat sounding and not dynamic at all. IME the difference between FLAC and 320 isn't that big though- of I didn't know I was listening to an mp3 instead of lossless, I wouldn't know any better, and its only when I a/b them can I tell any subtle differences.

Rap mixtapes are best listened using vbr than 320/apple lossless..
post #449 of 750
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

I still do not know how Vinnie achieved balanced out from the Ak120. Meaning I am skeptical on whether it is possible to even do that. 

This is from website:

The RWAK120-B modification is identical to the RWAK120-S, however we install a 3.5mm TRRS jack (4-pin) where the unused volume control was located, and hard-wire this jack directly to the balanced analog output sections of the WM8741 dac chips. This provides a true balanced output signal to feed the balanced input of external headphone amplifiers that offer this feature (e.g. ALO RX3, RSA SR71B).
post #450 of 750
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

Dinan?

Upgraded sound system, not upgraded car. :)

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