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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 73% (274)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 26% (97)
    Carbo Basso
371 Total Votes  
post #4216 of 5960
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 
Anyway, I'm rambling... But I definitely believe it is possible to eq an earphone to perfection, or close to it, assuming you have the ear and tools. But once you plug it into another device you're screwed. :-P

 

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Originally Posted by Francisk View Post

Yes, there's a lot of magic (compensation) EQ can do but I'd rather have a good stock sound straight off my phones because I plug them into many devices.....and.....all EQs have their own sound characteristic to begin with.

 

I get where you are coming from and I typically feel the same way wanting to use an iem across all sources.  However, we're only talking a $10 investment and, IMO, the effect is significantly better than most iems I've heard.  The Somic driver, after EQ, sounds incredibly clear, nimble and dynamic.  I will be picking one up when it's released and having spent a good deal of time to recreate the EQ on my iPhone, in Equalizer, will be using it quite often.  Switching from the AK240/UERM (balanced) to the iPhone/Somic was pretty seamless with zero adjustment time.

 

Didn't mean to derail the Tenore thread, I just figured a bunch of you guys would appreciate the Somic with EQ, knowing you love the Tenore for the same reasons I do.

Edit: seems retail price on the Somic may be $30, not $10.
Edited by shotgunshane - 8/23/14 at 10:08am
post #4217 of 5960
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

I didn't think much of the havi b3 old version. It was pretty odd sounding and off putting to me.

Why thank you good sir. I now understand why you and some may have not brought up the havi b3 odd sound.

Will keep this noted.
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I think the B3 Pro I shoots way above the Tenore (and the Tenore is pretty decent). 

Except whwn i see posts like this, thank you eric. I gues i will bite sooner or later and purchase one for good measure!!
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post


Well, i always end up picking something else instead of the Havi. I was toying with the idea of getting one but then i discovered the XE800 which is a retuned GR07. Since i love the diaphragm of the GR07 but i have issues with the tuning of the treble, i though i should give the Vivo a chance, if the treble is flatter it should be a full win. XD

Oh really? Im pretty happy you got the xe800 instead! As people described the SQ of the vivo earphones, i have been wanting to try them as well! Its peak night be a bit lowe than the gr07s themselves.

Once you receive them, happy listening!

The gr07
post #4218 of 5960
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post


I get where you are coming from and I typically feel the same way wanting to use an iem across all sources.  However, we're only talking a $10 investment and, IMO, the effect is significantly better than most iems I've heard.  The Somic driver, after EQ, sounds incredibly clear, nimble and dynamic.  I will be picking one up when it's released and having spent a good deal of time to recreate the EQ on my iPhone, in Equalizer, will be using it quite often.  Switching from the AK240/UERM (balanced) to the iPhone/Somic was pretty seamless with zero adjustment time.

Didn't mean to derail the Tenore thread, I just figured a bunch of you guys would appreciate the Somic with EQ, knowing you love the Tenore for the same reasons I do.
Edit: seems retail price on the Somic may be $30, not $10.

I don't mind getting the Somic even at $30 for just a single dedicated player if it really sound as good as the UERM since I can't afford the UERM now after splashing on the TG334 recently. $30 for the UERM sound is daylight robbery

On second thoughts why can't Somic just pay the person who initiated the "Supreme EQ" and retune their MH412 to duplicate that EQ setting and rename it MH412EQ....then sell it for double the price. I guarantee it'll definitely be an instant hit. I really can't be assed with EQ for every different device.
Edited by Francisk - 8/23/14 at 11:34am
post #4219 of 5960
When is the somic getting released? Also, it should work on any android phone right?
post #4220 of 5960
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And while fr is important, other factors such as distortion can limit the success of the eq.

Absolutely.
post #4221 of 5960
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

 
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Originally Posted by Francisk View Post

Yes, there's a lot of magic (compensation) EQ can do but I'd rather have a good stock sound straight off my phones because I plug them into many devices.....and.....all EQs have their own sound characteristic to begin with.

I get where you are coming from and I typically feel the same way wanting to use an iem across all sources.  However, we're only talking a $10 investment and, IMO, the effect is significantly better than most iems I've heard.  The Somic driver, after EQ, sounds incredibly clear, nimble and dynamic.  I will be picking one up when it's released and having spent a good deal of time to recreate the EQ on my iPhone, in Equalizer, will be using it quite often.  Switching from the AK240/UERM (balanced) to the iPhone/Somic was pretty seamless with zero adjustment time.

Didn't mean to derail the Tenore thread, I just figured a bunch of you guys would appreciate the Somic with EQ, knowing you love the Tenore for the same reasons I do.
Edit: seems retail price on the Somic may be $30, not $10.
Definitely. I wouldn't have some, if any, of my iems if i didn't use eq. :-P the cheaper the iem that sounds great with eq the better. Lol
post #4222 of 5960

Well, TTS appeared really fast. I thought that it as something with the song, or the fit, but after some tests I realzed that the right driver was sounding at a lower volume. I just half-opened the mesh and stuffed some cotton there. Problem fixed. Thanks for the quick fix :p

post #4223 of 5960
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Originally Posted by oMalakai View Post

Well, TTS appeared really fast. I thought that it as something with the song, or the fit, but after some tests I realzed that the right driver was sounding at a lower volume. I just half-opened the mesh and stuffed some cotton there. Problem fixed. Thanks for the quick fix tongue.gif

Nice! Hope it lasts. Mine has. Keep us updated!
post #4224 of 5960
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


Nice! Hope it lasts. Mine has. Keep us updated!

 

I don't see why it shouldn't last. It was an instant fix so it's not like a coincidence or something :p

Anyways, it's just so dumb that the lack of foam as filter or something can cause a problem that's so annoying.

post #4225 of 5960

Has anyone found a great tip for the tenore that is foam "other" than the s series?

post #4226 of 5960
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Has anyone found a great tip for the tenore that is foam "other" than the s series?

I'll give my Monster super tips a shot and report back.
post #4227 of 5960
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post
 
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Has anyone found a great tip for the tenore that is foam "other" than the s series?

I'll give my Monster super tips a shot and report back.

 

Cool. I just can't seem to get consistent sound with any silicon tips. They never seem to seal the same each time. Very frustrating. I never used to have this problem. I think it's because I want to have the most shallow seal possible, and they only really seal consistently when they're mid ear. At least I assume. But foam would probably seal better even shallow...

post #4228 of 5960
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Cool. I just can't seem to get consistent sound with any silicon tips. They never seem to seal the same each time. Very frustrating. I never used to have this problem. I think it's because I want to have the most shallow seal possible, and they only really seal consistently when they're mid ear. At least I assume. But foam would probably seal better even shallow...

I've had a really good experience with the meelec biflanges as long as I push them straight in while pushing one side of the tip against one side of my ear. This allows me to insert them far enough without forming a seal until I let go completely. The tip then fills the ear canal and stays put. So basically push the tip in, but try not to let one side of the tip connect with your ear until you stop pushing the tips in. Sounds kind of weird when I explain it, but it works great, and I don't get any suction or pressure build up at all.
post #4229 of 5960
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Cool. I just can't seem to get consistent sound with any silicon tips. They never seem to seal the same each time. Very frustrating. I never used to have this problem. I think it's because I want to have the most shallow seal possible, and they only really seal consistently when they're mid ear. At least I assume. But foam would probably seal better even shallow...

I've had a really good experience with the meelec biflanges as long as I push them straight in while pushing one side of the tip against one side of my ear. This allows me to insert them far enough without forming a seal until I let go completely. The tip then fills the ear canal and stays put. So basically push the tip in, but try not to let one side of the tip connect with your ear until you stop pushing the tips in. Sounds kind of weird when I explain it, but it works great, and I don't get any suction or pressure build up at all.
i do that sometimes as well.

I think i fixed my issue though. Will post later...
post #4230 of 5960

So here's the deal. As I discussed previously, using a bit of tip material to act as a vent just didn't work for me. Altered the sound way too much. However, the idea is sound. So I started experimenting with different materials to find something that doesn't change the sound, but allows me to prevent a strong vacuum seal, making it easier to fit them quickly and consistently.

 

Ready for this? No joke. Dental tape. The wider floss. Specifically this brand/type: http://www.oralb.com/products/glide-pro-health-comfort-plus-floss/

 

 

 

That's right folks. You can keep your ears clean while you listen to music! Less plaque equals more details!

 

But seriously, it is perfect in two ways. First, it's incredibly easy to thread through a tip and then pop the tip on the earphone. Then you can pull the floss back until it isn't covering the opening at all. So easy to implement. You can cut off the excess too if you care to and don't change tips often.

 

Second, it acts as a more slow vent. I can push the earphones in at any depth and within about 1-2 full seconds the air pressurizes perfectly and they are very comfortable. This slower release allows enough of a break in vacuum that it doesn't alter the bass at all. In fact, I left longer floss hanging out initially and pulled the floss out while listening to music. No change in sound.

 

I also removed the floss and inserted the earphones a bunch and swapped back to floss, repeat, repeat. There is definitely a clear change in the pressurization after a second or two. I've listened to them all day, and not once have I had a problem with the sound or refitting them after removing them. I'll post back after a few days. But now these definitely rock more than any other iem I have. Minus the cable pulling out of the housing, but so far it's still technically in tact...


Edited by luisdent - 8/25/14 at 2:37pm
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