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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 73% (274)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 26% (97)
    Carbo Basso
371 Total Votes  
post #3376 of 5963
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Originally Posted by lolwatpear View Post
 

I recently bought these, but I'm not impressed.  This will remind me to not fall for the hype train again on a sub $100 iem.  It isn't nearly as good as my tdk ba200.  The bass is way too overpowering.

I'm guessing you got a bassy pair.  Did you order from Amazon Japan?  I haven't heard anyone that has bought from Amazon Japan complain yet.

 

I much prefer my Tenore over the BA200 because it has tight punchy bass and more extended highs.

post #3377 of 5963

To my ears, Singolo has much less bass quantity and punch than Tenore (not surprising comparing BA to Dynamic), so the sound across the spectrum is not balanced compared to the treble.  Mids are really good on the Singolo though, which is one of the BA strengths.

 

Doppio is supposed to have even less bass than Singolo.

post #3378 of 5963

I got a bassy pair of Tenores. Amazon US from a JP seller.

 

The fix is to use something like the Sennheiser double flanges, which puts the driver closer to the opening, which tames the bass. Poor fit though.

post #3379 of 5963
I got a pair of quirky but aurally sexy Tenores from eBay via a Japanese seller, and I love them. Reference and detailed detailed detailed. The bass about the same, if not slightly more mid bass lifted than the B3 bass. Still has quirky issues, but I can love with them. The Doppio I acquired via the same means, but they are still in transit from Japan.
post #3380 of 5963
@bhazard I want to try those XE800 or whatever they are called. Your new favorite IEM. The sexily redesigned and retuned VSONIC GR07..
post #3381 of 5963
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post

@bhazard I want to try those XE800 or whatever they are called. Your new favorite IEM. The sexily redesigned and retuned VSONIC GR07..

If you look on Taobao, you can find them for around $60 after commission from a Taobao forwarding service. They are flat out awesome IEMs. I like them much better than the Tenores.

post #3382 of 5963
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

... I like them much better than the Tenores.

 

 

Can you do a comparison please ?

post #3383 of 5963
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

I got a bassy pair of Tenores. Amazon US from a JP seller.

 

The fix is to use something like the Sennheiser double flanges, which puts the driver closer to the opening, which tames the bass. Poor fit though.

How can they fit? I think the diameter of the Sennheiser double flanges is 1mm wider than the diameter of the Tenores.

post #3384 of 5963
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Originally Posted by Miyaichi View Post

How can they fit? I think the diameter of the Sennheiser double flanges is 1mm wider than the diameter of the Tenores.
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

No it's quite disheartening. All I can say is that to be sure you have a reference pair of Tenores, the mids should sound very close to ER4S mids in emphasis, tonality and FR. Otherwise they won't sound like the graph posted here earlier. Blargh... At least it was a pair on Amazon prime, so the return shouldn't be too difficult. Anyone want to do me a favor and sell me a good pair? Lol

In other news I'd thought I'd share some pics. This is how you use tips that are too big for the Tenore. I highly recommend getting a pair of Sennheiser biflanges.

Take a piece from the stem of a tip you're not using and put it on like this:


Then put the desired tip on over that.


Sexy!


Look at that wide open bore...
post #3385 of 5963
Nice, thanks. Could you just add the page to your comment. It's quiet hard to find in a thread with 226 pages :)

 

Update: Got it. It's on page 110 


Edited by Miyaichi - 7/8/14 at 3:30pm
post #3386 of 5963
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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post
 

 

 

Can you do a comparison please ?

I don't think you'll want a comparison from bhazard because he has a bad (bassy) Tenore.

 

Seems like the Japanese sellers on Amazon US are hit or miss.  Amazon Japan via Tenso or Whiterabbitexpress seems to be the way to go, until someone reports a bassy one from them.

post #3387 of 5963
Sfwalcer must be in so much shock from how good my tenores are he hasn't even been able to come up with words to describe them. ;-)
post #3388 of 5963
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post


Do not fear the Tenores. The Tenores are like a girlfriend who's high maintenance. She looks so good. So petite. She's got quirks. She can be bi-polar, getting loud one moment and quiet the next, and she might even have a few imperfections that can be irritating, but when she's on, SHE IS ON! She's a beauty of exquisite quality, and once you have her, you don't want to put her down. She sings like a bird. The Tenores are like that. Quirky and weird, but worth the time and effort.

 

I had a wife like that once. It was fun, dramatic and stressful while it lasted (which wasn't long!).

post #3389 of 5963

These look good on graph:

 

Final Audio Heaven S

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FinalAudioHeavenS.pdf

 

They actually look a lot like the ostry:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/OstryKC06.pdf

 

But with the dip rectified a bit, more linear bass a bit and more smooth "main" treble. Interesting. These might be my next purchase. As I've been comparing and describing them, I love the depth of the ostry but the flatness of the tenore. These are almost in between. I'm not sure who mentioned them, but thanks.

 

Also, based on his measurements, the ostry "almost" looks like a $60 k3003 ;)

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK3003ReferenceFilter.pdf

 

UPDATE:

On second thought, I'm not sure sure. The FAH-S has more distortion than the pfe112. That's pretty bad.


Edited by luisdent - 7/8/14 at 2:08pm
post #3390 of 5963
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Sfwalcer must be in so much shock from how good my tenores are he hasn't even been able to come up with words to describe them. ;-)


^

Speaking of the devil....

.... hard to fault these tenores but maybe that's a fault in itself??? ;)

 

Mo' to come tip rollin' LIKE A BOSS!!! :cool: 

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