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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 73% (274)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 26% (97)
    Carbo Basso
371 Total Votes  
post #3031 of 5958
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Maybe reverberation 😌

From the snare-drum? Maybe, but its higher pitched and only noticable when the cymbals are playing.
post #3032 of 5958
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post


From the snare-drum? Maybe, but its higher pitched and only noticable when the cymbals are playing.

 

It's lack of decay at least in my case. I hear the high hat as a tsss tss sound but compared to more treble focused iems it has less decay. A friend of mine is a drummer and i can tell you that the Tenore rendition, while not as ear pleasing, is actually closer to the real thing.

post #3033 of 5958
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post
 

 

Yes, excuse me. It's difficult, but I'll try to explain.

Listen to the intro of Wolfmother - The Joker & The Thief. Here you hear the hi-hat before the rest of the drum-kit kicks in.

What I mean is the following:

 

Sibilant (like the Xears XPA2Pro): sounds like: Sshhhh sh sh sh sh Sshhh

 

Natural ( like the Xiaomi Pistons): sounds like: Tsss ts ts ts ts Tss

 

Overly smooth (like the Tenores or the MH1C): SSssss ss ss ss Ssss

 

Now the grainy part; Imagine the same hi-hat, but now, someone left a lot of tiny steel beans on it. every time you hit the hi-hat, the beans "rattle" a bit.

I don't know if other people hear this too, but it is evident to my ears and really annoying.

 

My Tenore renders the hi-hat how you describe "Natural". I also don't believe I'm hearing the "grainy" aspect you mention. This is out of an iBasso D10 (connected via S/PDIF), and my Tenore is currently using small wide-bore tips.


Edited by PeterDLai - 6/23/14 at 8:46am
post #3034 of 5958
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

The ostry seem to have a possible slight peak or area that is "hot" somewhere, relatively speaking that is. Or so i thought initially. I'm not sure yet. The tenore treble sounds more wispy and swishy in comparison. Again, relatively speaking, and not in a bad swishy way, just tonally. Both sound incredible. The ostry do tend to render metallic noises more believably though. As far as i can tell. I need a lot more time, and my impressions may change...

I may have to sell one of my beloved reference tenores to get an ostry so i have more time to compare. :-o omg, did luisdent just really say that?!? Blasphemy! ;-)

Tbh, I didn't think that I would see the luisdent-meister saying that! Not because the kc06's aren't worthy (they are), but because I thought that you might be just a wee bit biased towards your 25 pairs of tenores lol. So, it's a testament to both your open-mindedness, and to how good the kc06's are (even if they end up not being the ones for you). Kudos!
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I'd like to think i'm very open minded. But i get very passionate. ;-)
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Originally Posted by mejoshua View Post

luisdent, does the kc06 match the tenores in 3Dness/soundstage? Because that's what impressed me the most about the Tenores. Probably one of (if not the best) the best i've heard in a single driver iem...

I almost think the ostry is better here. Need more time though.
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Originally Posted by Pastapipo View Post

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Originally Posted by higbvuyb View Post

 
Smooth is the opposite of grainy. Can you clarify what you mean?

Yes, excuse me. It's difficult, but I'll try to explain.
Listen to the intro of Wolfmother - The Joker & The Thief. Here you hear the hi-hat before the rest of the drum-kit kicks in.
What I mean is the following:

Sibilant (like the Xears XPA2Pro): sounds like: Sshhhh sh sh sh sh Sshhh

Natural ( like the Xiaomi Pistons): sounds like: Tsss ts ts ts ts Tss

Overly smooth (like the Tenores or the MH1C): SSssss ss ss ss Ssss

Now the grainy part; Imagine the same hi-hat, but now, someone left a lot of tiny steel beans on it. every time you hit the hi-hat, the beans "rattle" a bit.
I don't know if other people hear this too, but it is evident to my ears and really annoying.

I've found excellent treble "extension" can almost sound grainy if you don't realize what you're hearing is more subtle high frequencies you're not used to hearing. The tenores go way up there. Perhaps the metal beads you're hearing simply aren't rendered on the other phones, because it is higher treble? Just an idea...
post #3035 of 5958
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

I'd like to think i'm very open minded. But i get very passionate. ;-)
I almost think the ostry is better here. Need more time though.
I've found excellent treble "extension" can almost sound grainy if you don't realize what you're hearing is more subtle high frequencies you're not used to hearing. The tenores go way up there. Perhaps the metal beads you're hearing simply aren't rendered on the other phones, because it is higher treble? Just an idea...

Grainy treble could also be indicative of an improperly vented driver, as the driver isn't able to move properly. This problem would become worse over long listening sessions.

If Pastapipo has a second Tenore (he should lol) he could try comparing their volumes. The problematic Tenore should be quieter.
post #3036 of 5958
Guys get on the vsonic vsd3s train😉
post #3037 of 5958
Yep Mochill, I'm waiting for mine to arrive biggrin.gif
post #3038 of 5958
$45 for unbelievable performance competing with the dunu dn2000 and higher, to my ears the have the perfect treble abit more extended vs the tenore more foward midrange and bass is more linear plus bigger soundstage then my dunu dn2000😱
post #3039 of 5958
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

$45 for unbelievable performance competing with the dunu dn2000 and higher, to my ears the have the perfect treble abit more extended vs the tenore more foward midrange and bass is more linear plus bigger soundstage then my dunu dn2000😱

Where buy?
post #3040 of 5958
Will be back in stock in a week I think , I'll ask penonaudio 😊
post #3041 of 5958
EBay has it for $73😖
post #3042 of 5958
I'm with mochill, the vsd3s rocks.
post #3043 of 5958
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post #3044 of 5958

edit: posted in the wrong thread


Edited by knives - 6/23/14 at 1:10pm
post #3045 of 5958
@knives

You won't regret when you hear them Havi's wink.gif
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