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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 74% (281)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 25% (98)
    Carbo Basso
379 Total Votes  
post #2446 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post
 

thank you very much for your quick reply! i'm very interested in these two earphones from zero audio! 

thanks for chiming in! i will definitely love to hear your final thoughts on them! i guess i'm better off holding out a bit. i'm definitely have high hopes for these guys. been recently starting up a youtube channel to look for these budget gems, to help give the general public that these "lesser known" companies produce fine products (apart from typically known sennheiser, bose, beats).  and that you don't need to sell an arm and a leg to get something exceptional.

 

its a tall task, but i hope i can do what i can to help open some eyes =). i hope it would be okay to  give you full credit you @luisdent as well as the rest of the head-fi community once i get my hands on them and give my take on them. 

 

Even if you get a bassy pair you will have no way of knowing unless you either have a known good pair to compare to or have excellent ears that can spot 1 db differences with sine sweeps :P. I will tell you this though, even if your pair ends up with a couple of dbs more bass, it will still murder the mh1 and every other iem at this price range. If this was priced above 100$ i would be weary of variations, but at half the cost it doesn't really matter when the iem is so capable. Btw, i ordered from ebay and my pair isn't bassy, so either there was a bad batch, or it's a lottery with these. Only time will tell.

post #2447 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

I don't mean to assume anyone's budget, as I know money can be tight, but for the price I would recommend getting them. No matter what bass variation they may or may not have, I think most people like me and gnarlsagan would probably still recommend them at the price. Where I have four excellent pairs, my hopes are high that perhaps it is more source dependent that one might think. But again, either way, for the price I don't think they can be beat. Second choice would be the mh1 by sony, but i don't think they sound as refined and the cable is crap.

Would you be willing to let a pair go? After your testing that is smily_headphones1.gif
Unfortunately i probably can't. :-/

I made a decision before buying thrm that i had to have at least two backups. The third goes to gnarlsagan if he really wants it, and my brother has second dibs.

I recommend getting them from the ebay seller i got mine from. I got four separate pairs from two separate orders that are all reference...
post #2448 of 5986

^ Hoarder! ;)

post #2449 of 5986
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

^ Hoarder! wink.gif
damn straight! :-P these have to last me forever. I don't want to have to find another pair after the search i already went through. Ugh. ;-)
post #2450 of 5986
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

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damn straight! :-P these have to last me forever. I don't want to have to find another pair after the search i already went through. Ugh. ;-)

Oh puhlease. :-P
post #2451 of 5986
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

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damn straight! :-P these have to last me forever. I don't want to have to find another pair after the search i already went through. Ugh. ;-)

Thats the fun part wink.gif
post #2452 of 5986
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

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damn straight! :-P these have to last me forever. I don't want to have to find another pair after the search i already went through. Ugh. ;-)

 

Since you've had such good luck, you should just buy a ton more and start your own luisdent-approved Tenore shop. Given that these only cost about $35 directly from Amazon.co.jp, maybe woodlandhills_cass can cut you a bulk discount deal.


Edited by PeterDLai - 6/5/14 at 10:59pm
post #2453 of 5986
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


Oh puhlease. :-P

I would like ask you please if you could make a short comparison of Tenore and ER4S since you have both. 

 

I'm asking because i already have tenore but i'm seriously thinking of getting ER4S if it is even more detailed. If they are seriously close i might just save some money for food and bills ;)

post #2454 of 5986
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post
 

 

Even if you get a bassy pair you will have no way of knowing unless you either have a known good pair to compare to or have excellent ears that can spot 1 db differences with sine sweeps :P. I will tell you this though, even if your pair ends up with a couple of dbs more bass, it will still murder the mh1 and every other iem at this price range. If this was priced above 100$ i would be weary of variations, but at half the cost it doesn't really matter when the iem is so capable. Btw, i ordered from ebay and my pair isn't bassy, so either there was a bad batch, or it's a lottery with these. Only time will tell.

thats for sure! thats not what i meant =( i'm just surprised theres so many variations, thats all =0 it makes it exciting that though when ordering but would it not make it hard to recommend unless you really tried "all the variations" to definitively reveal your honest opinions on it? (then again others should only take impressions sometimes with a grain of salt, your own thoughts are the most important in the end (your paying for it and living with it)

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post


Unfortunately i probably can't. :-/

I made a decision before buying thrm that i had to have at least two backups. The third goes to gnarlsagan if he really wants it, and my brother has second dibs.

I recommend getting them from the ebay seller i got mine from. I got four separate pairs from two separate orders that are all reference...

haha no problem ( i totally understand >=() no but seriously thanks !! i probably will soon order! i got some other earphones i need to review and get rid of before i start a whole new roster of gear. but i'm definitely keeping my on this thread

 

oh btw did you happen to purchase both the the basso and tenore? i'm still debating if i should grab both =o i'll probably buy both in the end though

post #2455 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

thats for sure! thats not what i meant =( i'm just surprised theres so many variations, thats all =0 it makes it exciting that though when ordering but would it not make it hard to recommend unless you really tried "all the variations" to definitively reveal your honest opinions on it? (then again others should only take impressions sometimes with a grain of salt, your own thoughts are the most important in the end (your paying for it and living with it)

 

Variations reported as of now mostly concern a couple of dbs difference in the lower region. This will make some pairs less neutral, but the rest of the spectrum will still be relatively flat and other sonic characteristics like soundstage, instrument separation and positioning, dynamic range, etc will remain largely unaffected. Thus, it will still be a better buy than anything else at this price range. The MH1C for example also had variations in the lower region, it was and still is a recommended buy for its price. Besides, when variations stay within a certain frequency range, you can easily eq them, and that's something a demanding listener that knows his preferred sound signature does anyway. Neutral might be considered the standard, but personal preference is what matters in the end. Even the definitions of what a neutral sound should be have changed over the years with new methods of compensation.


Edited by SkiesOfAzel - 6/6/14 at 5:43am
post #2456 of 5986
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Originally Posted by jailhouselounge View Post

Anyone know how these compare to Astrotec ax 35? Would really appreciate it. Thanks.
the ax35 doesn't hold a candle to these. Carbo tenore is better in every aspect.
post #2457 of 5986

I have just received Tenore from amazon.jp. I have paired it with Sansa Clip+ and right now I can say that dx-200 sounds very veiled in comparsion with astrotec ax-30.I am going to try burn-in these these items and will listen only Tenore next week, maybe this will help. But right now dx-200 seems to be a completely downgrade from ax-30 ;(

post #2458 of 5986

Have had the tenore for 2 weeks now and have adapted to it's sound by now. It's starting to mature and also me beginning to appreciate it's neutral presentation. Though it's a little overly smooth for my taste but I now understand why it have it's followers. It's a very nice addition to have though I reach out more for the FX850, SE535 and SE846. But, it did take up quite a bit of my ear time and I can see some of my other phones starting to collect dust. Probably time to offload some of them. Cheers.

post #2459 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Arnej View Post
 

I have just received Tenore from amazon.jp. I have paired it with Sansa Clip+ and right now I can say that dx-200 sounds very veiled in comparsion with astrotec ax-30.I am going to try burn-in these these items and will listen only Tenore next week, maybe this will help. But right now dx-200 seems to be a completely downgrade from ax-30 ;(

 

You have to get used to the different sound signature in order to appreciate them (what is called mental burn-in). Luisdent has bought a lot of these and he found out their sound doesn't change with burn-in. From what i read, the ax-30 lacks sub bass, has peaky treble and it's more v shaped. What you perceive as veiled is a sound with more bandwidth and no peaks, meaning you can also hear subbass and more of the mids, which reduces perceived clarity, especially when you factor in the peaks on the ax-30's treble that the Tenore doesn't have. Phones like the dx-200 tend to be unimpressive on first listen since they don't boost any particular part of the sound, but if you give them time you will appreciate how natural and balanced they are in their representation of the music.

 

You should also avoid using them with the stock tips. They sound their best with biflanges and shallow insertion. It's likewise a hard to drive iem, so try it with a more juicy source to see how good or bad a synergy it has with the Clip+.

 

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Originally Posted by Leo888 View Post
 

Have had the tenore for 2 weeks now and have adapted to it's sound by now. It's starting to mature and also me beginning to appreciate it's neutral presentation. Though it's a little overly smooth for my taste but I now understand why it have it's followers. It's a very nice addition to have though I reach out more for the FX850, SE535 and SE846. But, it did take up quite a bit of my ear time and I can see some of my other phones starting to collect dust. Probably time to offload some of them. Cheers.

 

 

The smoothness can be a good thing for some. I really liked the gr07 but i found the treble a little too hot for extended listening. I can listen to these for hours and still get a similarly neutral sound without getting fatigued.


Edited by SkiesOfAzel - 6/6/14 at 7:17am
post #2460 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

I'm looking for some nice single flange tips that can be bought on the Interwebs somewhere. Any suggestions? 

I'm enjoying them right now with the medium heir tips (clones for tips of TF10, TF15, etc) found on lunashops.  The rigidity of the material prevents deep insertion so they stay relatively outside or maybe 25% in your ear canal, which in my opinion produces the best sound that Tenore can offer. 

 

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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post
 

I still can't believe how good those tiny things sound. I haven't pulled them out of my ears since i got them.

IMO Zero Audio is the best thing that has happened to this community since Vsonic and they offer an even better value.

There you have it, folks.  Tenore's sound so good that SkiesofAzel hasn't showered for days!  :confused_face(1):

 

In all seriousness, with the Heir tips these have become my goto for the past few days.  My only beef with them at this moment is that the power hunger leaves them feeling a bit weak when watching videos on my tablet.  I do this on during my commute and I've got my Nexus 7 (2013) on full blast and there are times I have to go back and listen carefully to some dialog I may have missed.  Between these and Ostry's I feel like I'm done.  I'm currently waiting for some folks to review the Topping NX1.  If it's all good, then I'll buy that and then consider buying the HAvi B3 pro-I.  After which I'll likely step away from head-fi for good.

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