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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 73% (274)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 26% (97)
    Carbo Basso
371 Total Votes  
post #2386 of 5954

 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post
 
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Originally Posted by AzatHead-Fier View Post

The following happened to my tenores 5 mins ago. The left side started to sound less loud. I am sure it wasn't because of driver flex as I use shallow fit with small tips. I kicked the housing with finger several times and the balance returned. Have anyone ever experienced this?

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Just read my posts in this thread to know that we belong to the same unlucky club.

 

Happened to my first pair as well. Mine got worse over time. How is yours coming waynes world? Any better?

 

Son of a B. I'm not positive, but this might have happened to me in the right channel today. I'm not really sure though, it seemed clearly louder in the left, but I didn't even think of it and assumed it was just my fit/pressure. After fiddling a bit I got it perfect, but now I'm not sure what the real cause was. I felt like I had to reinsert it a bunch of times to get it right. hmmmmm.

 

It almost seemed like pressure from the fit might have caused it, but releasing the pressure didn't fix it. It also seemed like pulling it in and out a few times and almost purposely causing large amounts of driver flex fixed it. I could be wrong. This could have simply been my canals not both having equal pressurization, which is critical for me. But it seemed to be harder to fix than normal...


Edited by luisdent - 6/4/14 at 2:43pm
post #2387 of 5954
The volume dropped on left side and signature changed making it sound warmer. And I decided to check the trick with air pump out while music playing. I am in absolutely quiet room, so I could fix very little sound changes during pupming out air with mouth. While process the signature gradually retuned to normal state and suddenly... click!!...driver flex happened and the earphone now sounding just awesome. The pressure appears gradually as it removes gradually too. I don't think we can do anything to fix it frown.gif
post #2388 of 5954
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Originally Posted by AzatHead-Fier View Post

The volume dropped on left side and signature changed making it sound warmer. And I decided to check the trick with air pump out while music playing. I am in absolutely quiet room, so I could fix very little sound changes during pupming out air with mouth. While process the signature gradually retuned to normal state and suddenly... click!!...driver flex happened and the earphone now sounding just awesome. The pressure appears gradually as it removes gradually too. I don't think we can do anything to fix it frown.gif

Yes sounds exactly like my issue.

Also luisdent let us know if yours comes back. Mine would come back very quickly if I didn't leave them sitting for a while.
post #2389 of 5954
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

 

Son of a B. I'm not positive, but this might have happened to me in the right channel today. I'm not really sure though, it seemed clearly louder in the left, but I didn't even think of it and assumed it was just my fit/pressure. After fiddling a bit I got it perfect, but now I'm not sure what the real cause was. I felt like I had to reinsert it a bunch of times to get it right. hmmmmm.

 

It almost seemed like pressure from the fit might have caused it, but releasing the pressure didn't fix it. It also seemed like pulling it in and out a few times and almost purposely causing large amounts of driver flex fixed it. I could be wrong. This could have simply been my canals not both having equal pressurization, which is critical for me. But it seemed to be harder to fix than normal...

 

It sounds to me like you got bit by the same bug. I wouldn't be totally surprised if a lot of people have been experiencing it without knowing exactly what's wrong.

post #2390 of 5954
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


Yes sounds exactly like my issue.

Also luisdent let us know if yours comes back. Mine would come back very quickly if I didn't leave them sitting for a while.

 

It's not happening with your newer pair though?

post #2391 of 5954
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

 

Son of a B. I'm not positive, but this might have happened to me in the right channel today. I'm not really sure though, it seemed clearly louder in the left, but I didn't even think of it and assumed it was just my fit/pressure. After fiddling a bit I got it perfect, but now I'm not sure what the real cause was. I felt like I had to reinsert it a bunch of times to get it right. hmmmmm.

 

It almost seemed like pressure from the fit might have caused it, but releasing the pressure didn't fix it. It also seemed like pulling it in and out a few times and almost purposely causing large amounts of driver flex fixed it. I could be wrong. This could have simply been my canals not both having equal pressurization, which is critical for me. But it seemed to be harder to fix than normal...

 

It sounds to me like you got bit by the same bug. I wouldn't be totally surprised if a lot of people have been experiencing it without knowing exactly what's wrong.

 

Yeah, I'm always very skeptical about imbalance, because i've had ear infections in the past where i didn't realize had one and thought my channels were messed up and then a day later i realized it was an ear infection. Otherwise, some earphones are tough for me just because of equalizing pressure. The er4s is unbelievable frustrating sometimes, because absolutely no air can escape when you're pushing the silicon tips in very deeply. So it can be very difficult to balance the sound via pressure. If I don't, and i just insert them, i always get a vacuum so strong the sound is really odd. The foam never does this, but has a slightly different sound.

 

With the tenores they're somewhere in the middle. I can usually get the pressure good pretty easily, but today i was questioning my ear again, but then when it started working again I knew that wasn't the case. So it seemed like it was the pressure or the earphone somehow, but unlike normally since i've had them, it wasn't easy to fix. Relatively speaking. It didn't take me long to get it working good, but it took a lot more messing with it than normal. And that made me start wondering if this is what people are experiencing. I really hope it doesn't get any worse if that is the case. I can deal with it happening now and then to that extent, but i hope it isn't a progressing type failure...

post #2392 of 5954
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

 

Yeah, I'm always very skeptical about imbalance, because i've had ear infections in the past where i didn't realize had one and thought my channels were messed up and then a day later i realized it was an ear infection. Otherwise, some earphones are tough for me just because of equalizing pressure. The er4s is unbelievable frustrating sometimes, because absolutely no air can escape when you're pushing the silicon tips in very deeply. So it can be very difficult to balance the sound via pressure. If I don't, and i just insert them, i always get a vacuum so strong the sound is really odd. The foam never does this, but has a slightly different sound.

 

With the tenores they're somewhere in the middle. I can usually get the pressure good pretty easily, but today i was questioning my ear again, but then when it started working again I knew that wasn't the case. So it seemed like it was the pressure or the earphone somehow, but unlike normally since i've had them, it wasn't easy to fix. Relatively speaking. It didn't take me long to get it working good, but it took a lot more messing with it than normal. And that made me start wondering if this is what people are experiencing. I really hope it doesn't get any worse if that is the case. I can deal with it happening now and then to that extent, but i hope it isn't a progressing type failure...

 

Yes, that's exactly how I feel and what I'm hoping for as well. I have a week or so to decide if I need to send them back for exchange (or refund I suppose). Listening to Alice In Chains' Rooster right now, and it's hard to imagine the tenores ever sounding anything other than friggin' awesome lol.

post #2393 of 5954

My biggest pet peeve with headphones/IEMs is channel imbalance, especially when it's subtle and variable.  It seems to cause me to go OCD and prevents me from relaxing into the music, even if I'm not sure that I'm experiencing the problem.  My first pair of really expensive headphones had the issue and I've never really recovered from the experience. 

 

It's been an entertaining thread, that's for sure.  :regular_smile :

 

I wish I felt more confident about my chances of getting a problem free pair because I don't doubt the sound quality is excellent if everything is functioning properly. 

post #2394 of 5954
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

It's not happening with your newer pair though?

It's only happened with one out of my six pairs so far, but that pair had the most play time.
post #2395 of 5954
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

It's only happened with one out of my six pairs so far, but that pair had the most play time.

 

Six pairs? Now's there's a committed tenore fan!

 

Ok, that's good about only one pair then. But out of the rest of your pairs, you have a mix of bassy and less bassy varieties, correct?

 

Damn. If I send these back for exchange, what am I going to get back? I'm pretty sure I have one of those reference quality eargasmic tenore versions right now. Hmm!

post #2396 of 5954
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Originally Posted by roy_jones View Post
 

My biggest pet peeve with headphones/IEMs is channel imbalance, especially when it's subtle and variable.  It seems to cause me to go OCD and prevents me from relaxing into the music, even if I'm not sure that I'm experiencing the problem.  My first pair of really expensive headphones had the issue and I've never really recovered from the experience. 

 

LOL! I think I'm going a bit OCD now myself due to this! Well, that's not quite true - when the tenores are acting proper, all you have to do is look in the mirror at the big smile on your face to know everything is all right :)

 

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I wish I felt more confident about my chances of getting a problem free pair because I don't doubt the sound quality is excellent if everything is functioning properly. 

 

Yup. Box of chocolates!

post #2397 of 5954

Whacky. The left driver started to sound more prominent. But that was just because the right driver became "softer". Based on @AzatHead-Fier's fine input, I did a brief ritual of sucking on the right driver vent hole (sounds bad I know) and twackying the right driver (ouch), and it instantly got de-pressurized and sounding back to normal. Whacky and interesting indeed.

 

And yes @roy_jones, I am now officially going into OCD land lol.

 

Edit: It happened again shortly after, and a quick session of flicking the drivers got them working again. I love the tenores, but I also value my sanity to some degree, so I'm going to get them exchanged. I'm not going to post about this issue any more (unless it also happens with my exchange pair of course) because I really don't want to discourage anyone from hearing these wonders - they should be heard and appreciated. Cheers.


Edited by waynes world - 6/4/14 at 6:42pm
post #2398 of 5954
I'm not even sure what caused mine yet. It's only happened once noticeably. I'll keep you posted though. I'm hoping it was a fluke. :-o
post #2399 of 5954
Maybe that's why they don't sell alot 😖
post #2400 of 5954
No problem on my pair 😇
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