Originally Posted by SilverEars
You make assumptions and come off rude while at it.
Yet, you seem to have no desire other than to argue. :-P
I don't believe I have stated my Tenores are bright, but I have stated that the highs sound more forward after running them while.
If you are inferring that I said that you said that... I never said anything about you saying your tenores were bright. Show me that post.
If you read my initial impressions, it states that the Tenores sound tight, but the treble sounds too smooth which lines up with other's impressions if you read around.
I've read all of your impressions, and you make it sound as though a bunch of other people find them "too smooth". Maybe a few, and I'm not discounting anyone's impressions, but if YOU read a lot of the posts you'll find a lot of people saying they disagree and that the treble is full of detail, "realistic", "natural", etc. I never discounted anyone, including you, for saying yours were smooth when others thought otherwise. But yet, you discount me for saying mine are detailed and reference, when in fact a lot of posters do agree. That's pretty hypocritical.
CK10's treble gets much finer,
Explain that a little more please. "finer"? As in more resolution? Or that you simply hear more of what you call "details" because there is more treble? They both have good low distortion levels, is there a magical resolution specification i missed on the ck10? More likely, the treble signature is why you find them more detailed. As I said many times, there's nothing wrong with that, but that doesn't make them neutral. And it doesn't make the tenores too soft in comparison to the ck10, unless you mean to your tastes, which you clearly do not, as you continue to argue to me (who might have different tastes) that it is.
CK10 is detailed, but can be overly bright with sibilant recordings
"overly bright"? That implies more bright than neutral does it not? Whether a recording is sibilant or not, that shouldn't make it overly bright. You would just hear the sibilance as it was recorded. That doesn't happen with my tenores at all, but I do "hear" sibilance if it's in a recording. Sibilance itself can be harsh, but your comment would indicate it is overly bright compared to other phones. Otherwise, what is it overly bright compared to?
I have stated that my Tenores has changed. Initially, there were more bass volume, now bass quality seems lower with high being forward. Like gnarlsagan says, I pushed the volume up, and with sibilant parts or recordings with mix of different types of high pitched sounds going on, it bleeds, sounding congested without separation and distorted.
Bass "quality"? Or quantity? Distorted and congested when turned up? I get nothing like that. So, as I say every single time you reply to my posts, it doesn't seem like we're hearing the same thing. End of story. But while I give practical theories as to why this is true, you simply call me rude and supply no reasoning. How does that make me rude?
Let me list what I have heard. I know what treble does and when phones are detailed.
Yet again, no one answered my question when I compared the tenores to the er4 and hd600. Do you consider the tenores or the hd series more neutral and accurate? How about the er4s? Do you consider either of those neutral in general? If you do then you consider my set of tenores neutral. If yours don't sound the same in comparison, that doesn't make mine any less similar to those sets.
I just ask that we focus on details, explanations, reasoning, and not resort to insults. If I'm labeled rude because I want to figure things out, find out what is causing the differences, explain things to the best of my ability so people can get the best impressions and the most from their phones... than fine, call me rude. I'll happily be the rudest dude around! :-P
Edited by luisdent - 6/2/14 at 6:37pm