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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 74% (281)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 25% (98)
    Carbo Basso
379 Total Votes  
post #1696 of 5986

The "biggest" sound I can get out of the Tenores is using the Sony Hybrid (green).  I compared this with the lunashop Heir tips, stock tips, and VSonic VSD1 double flange tips. 

 

Hybrids make the soundstage larger and more expansive and they come relatively close, maybe 80% to the KC06 from a mids/highs standpoint.

post #1697 of 5986
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

 

Is there a trick to get these to fit on your Tenore?  When I put them on, I found there is no seal between the tips themselves and the (relatively) narrow bore.  I found the mids and highs recessed or thinned out due to not having a tight seal between tip/iem.  I'm pretty sure I have the same size as you on the tips.


I don't have your problem, the tips fit good and I'm geting full sound with mids/treble as expected. Maybe I don't get the same airy sound and the bass is a bit too much, but I can't tell that the treble or mids get recessed or thinned, they sound good. I got 3 pairs, only tried one. Maybe there are different tolerances on them, I'll try the others later to see if they all fit the same.

post #1698 of 5986
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I don't have your problem, the tips fit good and I'm geting full sound with mids/treble as expected. Maybe I don't get the same airy sound and the bass is a bit too much, but I can't tell that the treble or mids get recessed or thinned, they sound good. I got 3 pairs, only tried one. Maybe there are different tolerances on them, I'll try the others later to see if they all fit the same.

I actually found the stock/hybrids to have more bass and while the Heir does tighten the bass it loses the thump and the mids and highs move back a bit.  I guess it comes down to the shape of ear canal.  The Heirs do not give me a great seal, and due to the stiffness of the material, I cannot force them in for a seal. 

 

This is weird and a bit frustrating. I continue to have a different experience than most with these Tenores.  I'm trying my darnedest to experience the level of hype that several have experienced with these but to no avail.  I still find the Ostry KC06 better, at many levels; especially after I put the Heir tips on.  I could chalk it up to it being an issue of combination between ear canal size and preferred sound signature and call it day, but I find it hard to believe that I am different from so many people. 

post #1699 of 5986

You said your pair was used, maybe there is something wrong with it. Recessed treble and tenores can't be used in the same sentence. Or mids aswell. :veryevil: Ppl who measured them with some equipement said that the treble is very well extended and I find it very crisp and detailed. Didn't heard the ostrys tho.

post #1700 of 5986
I find it sad when companies sell their products and know one buys them so then they become discontinued and then people start buying them only to find out that its one epic gear😔.. Same happened to the Martin Logan mukros90 and now these😒
post #1701 of 5986

You mean they stopped making these things?

post #1702 of 5986
Yes😢😠, why because for more consumer grade sound😔, the doppios aren't consumer grade , but I think they will soon might make some 😌
post #1703 of 5986
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post
 

Okay guys I hate to be buzzkill, but my one good pair of Tenores has developed channel imbalance not unlike my first pair. It seems to get worse over time. The left side just gets quieter after a certain number of hours. It seems to go back to normal after not listening for a while, then comes back more quickly each time. 

 

It's not my hearing. I switch directly to my MH1's and there is no issue. It's not my device. I've used both my Nexus 5 and Leckerton UHA760. It's not my tips or fit. I've switched tips, and still it it's a noticeable 3-5dB imbalance. I'm convinced there is some major manufacturing problem with many Tenores. This is the third set that's given me issues. Oh well, I've got a fourth set on the way. 

 

Has this happened to anyone else? Or is everyone else's working perfectly? 

I've had mine since June 2013 and haven't noticed any issues.

post #1704 of 5986
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Originally Posted by audiobot View Post

So the sony hybrid tips are no bueno?

I didn't like the Sony hybrid tips on them.  They took away some airyness.  I love them with Meelectronics M6 double flange that Lifted Andreas recommended.

post #1705 of 5986
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

I find it sad when companies sell their products and know one buys them so then they become discontinued and then people start buying them only to find out that its one epic gear😔.. Same happened to the Martin Logan mukros90 and now these😒

How do you know Tenore is discontinued?  What about Basso, Singolo, and Doppio?

post #1706 of 5986
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Originally Posted by avlad View Post
 

You said your pair was used, maybe there is something wrong with it. Recessed treble and tenores can't be used in the same sentence. Or mids aswell. :veryevil: Ppl who measured them with some equipement said that the treble is very well extended and I find it very crisp and detailed. Didn't heard the ostrys tho.


I wouldn't say they are recessed period, but rather that compared to KC06 they take a step back.  Pistons, now those are recessed. 

 

It's been a few weeks since I bought them from a fellow head-fier.  I don't think I'll ask for a refund at this point because I can't confirm it.  I'm perfectly satisfied with my KC06.. maybe I should unsubscribe from this thread so I don't feel like I'm missing out!

post #1707 of 5986
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I wouldn't say they are recessed period, but rather that compared to KC06 they take a step back.  Pistons, now those are recessed. 

It's been a few weeks since I bought them from a fellow head-fier.  I don't think I'll ask for a refund at this point because I can't confirm it.  I'm perfectly satisfied with my KC06.. maybe I should unsubscribe from this thread so I don't feel like I'm missing out!

Not all Tenores are created equally. Out of the three I've owned only one had the reference sound. The other two were oddly warm, lacking mids and treble emphasis.
post #1708 of 5986
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


Not all Tenores are created equally. Out of the three I've owned only one had the reference sound. The other two were oddly warm, lacking mids and treble emphasis.


That's the ones I have!  Argh.. what happened to good ol' Quality Assurance?  

post #1709 of 5986
I was trying to account for why you struggled with them for so long, and I guess it just turns out that you got a lemon :l
post #1710 of 5986
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

I was trying to account for why you struggled with them for so long, and I guess it just turns out that you got a lemon :l
are we talking knock off? Maybe a production line gone bad? How often does this happen?
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