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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 70% (144)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 29% (61)
    Carbo Basso
205 Total Votes  
post #3346 of 4458
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

? Have you got a response from them about this? Or do you mean my non-response from them? lol 

 

I am talking about their response to you, which i frankly find insulting. 

post #3347 of 4458
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post

I am talking about their response to you, which i frankly find insulting. 

The one that says, all the sets sold in Japan have ridiculously high tolerances and QC, of course, and those that are shipped out of japan pretty much all have to crap out due to the shipping, most likely. And since we don't sell or authorize sales outside Japan, we don't even wanna take a look at your obviously damaged in unauthorized transit sets. Not like we have any pride at stake here. That one?

To be honest, what this says to me is that they should put a warning on their box that says any prolonged exposure to high altitudes, even pressurized, will result in irreparable damage to the IEM. Proceed at your own risk.
Edited by vwinter - 7/7/14 at 4:32pm
post #3348 of 4458
I'm giving Zero Audio the benefit of the doubt on the Doppio, so he's hoping. Since they've been shipped, I don't have much choice anyways lol
post #3349 of 4458
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post

I'm giving Zero Audio the benefit of the doubt on the Doppio, so he's hoping. Since they've been shipped, I don't have much choice anyways lol

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post #3350 of 4458
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post #3351 of 4458

I'm now scared to use my Tenore :(

They are already on the hands of the sister of a friend that lives in USA that was nice enough to buy them, because she's coming in August to Chile, but well...I hope they are going to be good, but seriously, I'm going to be pretty scared to use them everyday, I wanted something that sounded nice but with all these quality issues...welp :rolleyes:

post #3352 of 4458
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


The one that says, all the sets sold in Japan have ridiculously high tolerances and QC, of course, and those that are shipped out of japan pretty much all have to crap out due to the shipping, most likely. And since we don't sell or authorize sales outside Japan, we don't even wanna take a look at your obviously damaged in unauthorized transit sets. Not like we have any pride at stake here. That one?

 

Yeah, you summed it up nicely. I like my sound as much as the next head-fier but i also believe that consumers are responsible about how they choose what they buy. I don't mind honest mistakes, we are all human after all, but i wouldn't want to see a company that disrespects their consumers in a place of power so i wont support them. I know it sounds silly, i am after all just one person, but i see it as a responsibility not unlike voting, so its an ethical issue to me. I will post the results of my blind tests when i am done with them and then i am finished with this thread.


Edited by SkiesOfAzel - 7/7/14 at 4:53pm
post #3353 of 4458
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Originally Posted by oMalakai View Post

I'm now scared to use my Tenore frown.gif
They are already on the hands of the sister of a friend that lives in USA that was nice enough to buy them, because she's coming in August to Chile, but well...I hope they are going to be good, but seriously, I'm going to be pretty scared to use them everyday, I wanted something that sounded nice but with all these quality issues...welp rolleyes.gif

Do not fear the Tenores. The Tenores are like a girlfriend who's high maintenance. She looks so good. So petite. She's got quirks. She can be bi-polar, getting loud one moment and quiet the next, and she might even have a few imperfections that can be irritating, but when she's on, SHE IS ON! She's a beauty of exquisite quality, and once you have her, you don't want to put her down. She sings like a bird. The Tenores are like that. Quirky and weird, but worth the time and effort.
post #3354 of 4458
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post

Yeah, you summed it up nicely. I like my sound as much as the next head-fier but i also believe that consumers are responsible about how they choose what they buy. I don't mind honest mistakes, we are all human after all, but i wouldn't want to see a company that disrespects their consumers in a place of power so i wont support them. I know it sounds silly, i am after all just one person, but i see it as a responsibility not unlike voting, so its an ethical issue to me. I will post the results of my blind tests when i am done with them and then i am finished with this thread.

Will you be partial? Doesn't sound like you can with all the anger towards Zero Audio. Hopefully we get an unbiased reporting regardless? smily_headphones1.gif
post #3355 of 4458
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post


Will you be partial? Doesn't sound like you can with all the anger towards Zero Audio. Hopefully we get an unbiased reporting regardless? smily_headphones1.gif

 

:tongue_smile:  Yeah, he's definitely being irrational to believe that a company should be accountable for their products. 

 

You'll fit in here wonderfully. 

post #3356 of 4458
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Originally Posted by LanceP11 View Post


Will you be partial? Doesn't sound like you can with all the anger towards Zero Audio. Hopefully we get an unbiased reporting regardless? smily_headphones1.gif

 

I am not angry, it's just an iem, they didn't burn my house down ;). My choice not to support ZA is motivated by logic, not emotion, maybe it's a Kantian logic but it's logic nonetheless :p. Besides if you look for my previous posts you will find out i really like the Tenores, in fact i like them better than every other iem i've bought or auditioned and that includes some stuff that cost 5-6 times as much. My comparison will concentrate mostly on frequency variations so the only bias there can be has to do with my ears :D.

post #3357 of 4458

its been 350 posts since i last visited this thread...

still enjoying my Tenore on this over the evening :P

 

post #3358 of 4458
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post
 
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

? Have you got a response from them about this? Or do you mean my non-response from them? lol 

 

I am talking about their response to you, which i frankly find insulting. 

 

O.k. That's what I thought you mean, but wasn't positive.

 

Shipping defects are very common. But "consistent" shipping defects with the same product from multiple resellers? I wouldn't go that far, but who knows...

 

Personally, the variance is what annoys me the most. I'm not dismissing failures, but assuming there was no failure the variances between sets would be like sony selling an ex1000 and an ex600 and calling them both an ex1000. Someone would graph that after hearing the difference and sony would take some heavy heat. But with the tenore we're talking about more variance in multiple directions! Unacceptable.

 

I still love the sound, and I still think they're a good bargain "if" you can get a reference pair. Not that any pairs sound bad, they don't. But I'd rather use another earphone than listen to the bassier variant personally. Too soft in presentation for my tastes.

 

Also, just a theory, but all these imbalances and differences. Is it possible that people's ears become warm and moist and cause blockage in the filter/mesh/damper? I'm not talking about sweat. I'm talking about basic moisture. These things are micro small components. ZA even said a damper could cause bass variance. Perhaps the moisture causes a block in the damper or some internal component and starts dropping the volume or changing the response?? It would explain why they "get better" after a while or after a break. It could explain the bassy-ness as well if they became really moist on a shipping container or something to the point where they built up crud or gunk that doesn't just "go away" like ear moisture. Of my sets, they are all similar in sound, but they are not all the same volume. When comparing them I had to fluctuate the volume to make them equal.

 

Just some ideas.

post #3359 of 4458
That's why I remove all my filters 😁
post #3360 of 4458
Doppios have no problems whatsoever 😃
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