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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 69% (125)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 30% (55)
    Carbo Basso
180 Total Votes  
post #3136 of 4258
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Originally Posted by Francisk View Post


Well if it's made in China then I'll still put the blame on Zero Audio because they should have their own QC department there just like many other American companies like JBL, Mackie and many others who have shifted their production plant to China.

For sure.  I'm not saying nobody is responsible for poor QC.  There are some excellent made products that come out of China, but I feel that there is more trust of products built from Japan.

post #3137 of 4258
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

For sure.  I'm not saying nobody is responsible for poor QC.  There are some excellent made products that come out of China, but I feel that there is more trust of products built from Japan.

 

I totally agree with you SilverEars...Japan has proven themselves and they have good records with the products they produce and China products on the other hand had a bad reputation initially and they're well aware of it and they've improved over the years and they're actually getting much better now.

 

For Zero Audio...it's just a bad case of quality control.


Edited by Francisk - 6/25/14 at 9:32pm
post #3138 of 4258
How about the variation between the left & right earphone ? They seems to have that under control. I think we had one or two reporting unbalanced but they seems to have a proper QC for matching each side. It's obvious that the assembly of these involve human manipulation consedaring the cable length variances.
post #3139 of 4258
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

AppleMark

 

 

My less bassy pairs are still more deep bass boosted than your drawing would suggest. They're at least midway between flat and my IE800.

 

Maybe I should start calling them "near-reference" Tenores. :rolleyes:

 

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

This is making me like the kc06 more every second even if they aren't perfect. I hope their control is consistent. At a minimum, the seal on those is always un-sealed in essence, so I don't predict much bass fluctuation on those. But who knows. What does everyone else think?

 

I've heard three KC06s and they all sounded identical.

 

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Originally Posted by nmatheis View Post

Hey, shouldn't we be paying more for this fine, artisanal earphone where each pair has it's own character wink_face.gif.

 

We do in fact pay more as we keep on buying additional pairs. ;) 

post #3140 of 4258

I just bought the Tenores from Amazon for $48 shipped from Japan :) They should be here in some weeks, and I'll be comparing them to the Xiaomi Pistons 

post #3141 of 4258
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

We do in fact pay more as we keep on buying additional pairs. wink.gif  

Winning!
post #3142 of 4258

OK, after about 60 hours of use my left earpiece started to go quiet :angry_face:

 

When I put it away for couple of hours and then use it again it behaves the same after 5-10 mins of listening...

 

This is one of the typical Tenore syndromes I think (similar things reported before).

 

If the left earpiece went permanently quiet I will contact the ebay seller for a refund or replacement...

 

Shame on Zero A. for producing the worst, inconsistent iem on the earth!

post #3143 of 4258
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Originally Posted by Baycode View Post
 

OK, after about 60 hours of use my left earpiece started to go quiet :angry_face:

 

When I put it away for couple of hours and then use it again it behaves the same after 5-10 mins of listening...

 

This is one of the typical Tenore syndromes I think (similar things reported before).

 

If the left earpiece went permanently quiet I will contact the ebay seller for a refund or replacement...

 

Shame on Zero A. for producing the worst, inconsistent iem on the earth!

Man that sucks :mad:

 

It really seem as if these are hit and miss since qc is lacking to say the least.

post #3144 of 4258

Guys do tenore benefit from an amp when using iphone ?

post #3145 of 4258

I think Zero Audio is trying to expand with an aggressive pricing and went too much in the other direction. An 80$ Tenore with better quality control would still be a very competitive product and a lot easier to recommend. Honest pricing is good as long as the product itself isn't compromised but in this case they shot their own foot. I still think that as a company they deserve our support and respect, they've actually managed to make an audiophile iem for the masses. I just hope they learn from their mistakes.

post #3146 of 4258
So my pair has an air leak on the strain relief 😃
post #3147 of 4258

I don't think the issue are the strain reliefs or venting in general for that matter. In one of my pairs the cable wasn't properly glued to the Y splitter  and the strain reliefs were also a little loose. There is a lot of air circulating in the cable and the iem doesn't seal as easily as the other pair that doesn't have those issues. Bass levels are the same. My bet is on some kind of damping filter.

post #3148 of 4258
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Originally Posted by shak85 View Post
 

Guys do tenore benefit from an amp when using iphone ?

 

The Tenore benefits hugely from introducing an amp to the mix. Huge. 

post #3149 of 4258
If very much air is escaping the strain relief, then It will have a noticeable effect on audio. No way around it. The bass on my mh1 that luisdent recabled and put super glue in the strain relief is substantially different in bass from any other mh1 I've heard.

The question becomes how much air volume is involved?

The variation in cable length and Y split is utterly shameful regardless of price. I love the Tenore SQ but defending shoddy QC just isn't reasonably IMO.

As to the Kc06. Really liked that iem but I did not hear it anything close to a neutralish reference. Too much bass quantity and I actually found it even smoother through the mids, especially upper mids. Distortion guitars distinctly lacked bite. But vocals were oh so nice. The treble was too metallic sounding, and peaky in an absolute sense, for my tastes. Don't get me wrong, not horrible or unlistenable, just too much so for me to want to keep long term.
post #3150 of 4258
I have just ordered two of these pot luck phones in hope one will be more stellar than other.
Hopefully both will sound equally great to my ears and I will have a back up pair.

At the end of day these phones are what they are at $50 and according to general consensus worth whole lot more.
Maybe with the surge in sale of these phones, Zero Audio will start to invest in QC.
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