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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 70% (147)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 29% (62)
    Carbo Basso
209 Total Votes  
post #2806 of 4474

Hi there, please tell me which one , the Tenore or the Bassy is closer to EPH-100s sound signature. Thanks!

post #2807 of 4474
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

Shootout



Tenore v FX850 v XBA-H3

 

I don't want to say it. I don't want to believe it. But the truth is undeniable. The Tenore is far superior to these two iems.

 

The saddest part to me is that people will read this and dismiss it because the Tenore is too cheap to be true. Even if they get it, they'll go into it with pre-conceived biases and not truly listen to this spectacular IEM.

 

:beerchug:

Your descriptions are the way I hear them.  What tips are you using?

post #2808 of 4474
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How the Tenore manages to be fuller and more refined without sacrificing a frickin thing is beyond me

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

It's the incredibly flat frequency response. :-) no one believes me. :-P

Glad you're not afraid to admin quality at a low price. Sometimes price doesn't matter. Not always, but sometimes.

*Gulp

Time to get wallet out again .. .
Edited by archy121 - 6/17/14 at 11:27am
post #2809 of 4474
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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post

*Gulp

Time to get wallet out again .. .

... I told you to get them :l
post #2810 of 4474
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

H3 sound hollowed out and uneven in the treble
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post #2811 of 4474

Couldn't resist. Paid 60 to be able to get them in two days and have Amazon's return policy. All aboard the hype train!

 

Edit: On the quality. I know there's some unevenness in the sound signature across models. How is the build quality? Will the hold up for a while?


Edited by Stuff Jones - 6/17/14 at 11:16am
post #2812 of 4474
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

... I told you to get them :l



So you did as well as others... confused_face_2.gif

Good thing it costs peanuts for this lucky dip !

To me it was just a myth until now. If this comparison had been done earlier I may have jumped on sooner.
To be honest I won't be fully convinced until I plug it in for myself. Just does not add up to the norm.



I also want to know what tips were used and if sound signature is close to eph100.


@eke2k6 Please confirm you was not on mushrooms during this testing blink.gif
Edited by archy121 - 6/17/14 at 11:31am
post #2813 of 4474
Mmmm mushrooms😉... Infected mushroom that is😁
post #2814 of 4474
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

Couldn't resist. Paid 60 to be able to get them in two days and have Amazon's return policy. All aboard the hype train!

 

Edit: On the quality. I know there's some unevenness in the sound signature across models. How is the build quality? Will the hold up for a while?

 

Build quality is good, the only weak point is the strain relief mechanism or rather the almost complete lack of it. So, you only ordered one pair? :p

post #2815 of 4474
Buy the singlous if your looking for a better build version and maybe better sound then it😃... I think I'll buy the singlous as well 😖... Have doppios and tenores😃
post #2816 of 4474
Quote:
Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Shootout

Tenore v FX850 v XBA-H3




Massive threads already exist on all these IEMs, so I won't bother with an intro. Plus I don't know how much longer I'm going to withstand the effects of this Nyquil, so let's get to it:


Gear: Fiio X5 as a USB DAC/Amp

Process : Rapid A/B, followed by listening to sections of songs with each IEM. *I also took very special care to make sure the IEMs were volume matched after switching.

Songs used...


1) Bem, Bem, Maria - Gipsy Kings.

This song was chosen for the fact that it has a lot going on. From the Spanish guitar rhythms, to the drums, and to Nicolas Reyes' voice weaving in and out of it all, it remains a treat to listen to.










2) Kaleidescope Heart - Sara Bareilles.

This song is a test for vocal separation. There are multiple vocal tracks going at once, and I'm listening for how well the phones can distinguish between them.








3) Make My - The Roots. 






I almost don't want to b





4) Helping Hand - Yo-Yo Ma, et al.

This happens to be one of my favorite tracks from one of my favorite albums. It's a showcase of what happens when geniuses come together to make music. This is one of the most beautiful videos you'll ever see, and the best sounding 360p youtube video I've come across.


 




5) Limit to Your Love - James Blake.

This song is pretty much my benchmark for bass and separation of frequencies on an iem. The track has a VERY solid bassline that kicks in, and beats like hummingbird wings, then rumbles your socks off. This is all going on while cymbal and a snare drum are being struck. One of the things I look for is the slight echo of the rimshot while the bassline is being played. Also, the cymbals can't be affected at all.



 






Thoughts



I don't want to say it. I don't want to believe it. But the truth is undeniable. The Tenore is far superior to these two iems.

The biggest thing to jump at me is just how much more refined the Tenore is over the others. It's so bloody effortless and smooth, while managing to be more detailed than the others. The Tenore makes the others sound somewhat like cheap earbuds...and I really liked the H3 when I compared it to my ASG-2.

The Tenore manages to easily flesh out each note, taking its time to refine and polish each one before releasing it to your eardrum. In comparison, the FX850 and H3 sound hollowed out and uneven in the treble. How the Tenore manages to be fuller and more refined without sacrificing a frickin thing is beyond me.

Soundstage is one thing that I feel like I should also address. The Tenore is more 3D sounding than both the H3 and FX850 by being more grounded in the center channel. That way, it throws cues seemingly exactly where needed. The others simply don't execute this as well as the Tenore does.

Another thing I'm beginning to appreciate is the spectacular timbre of the Tenore, especially in the vocals. It's truly special to hear. During the climax of Helping Hand, the Tenore blew my mind with its rendition of the strings. It was beautiful, and textured, and real.

It's not all roses with the Tenore though. The downside is that it can sound too intimate at times, but it's not too much of an issue. That, and dynamics seem to hit their ceiling fairly quickly.


The saddest part to me is that people will read this and dismiss it because the Tenore is too cheap to be true. Even if they get it, they'll go into it with pre-conceived biases and not truly listen to this spectacular IEM.

All the same, I hope more people try it out, as well as the KC06 from Ostry.
This is madness
post #2817 of 4474
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post

Build quality is good, the only weak point is the strain relief mechanism or rather the almost complete lack of it. So, you only ordered one pair? tongue.gif

Them strain reliefs....
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Originally Posted by Hisoundfi View Post

This is madness

This is HEAD-FI!!! Wallets come to die here and I assure u they die when they are killed...
post #2818 of 4474
Eke thanks for the review! I'll definitely check out those songs. Crazy to think there's an iem out there that so many of us can appreciate. I will patiently wait for your future ASG-2 comparison. :P

Still Tenore-less myself, but I'm currently listening to Olafur Arnalds on my ER4S, and can only imagine how amazing it sounds on the Tenore. Makes me want to assemble a team of mathematicians and film a scientific breakthrough montage.
Ólafur Arnalds ♥♥♥: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0006BCBA0583523E
post #2819 of 4474
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post
 

 

Build quality is good, the only weak point is the strain relief mechanism or rather the almost complete lack of it. So, you only ordered one pair? :p

 

Let me try one first! :) 

 

Is there any mod for the strain reliefs? 

post #2820 of 4474
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Originally Posted by Hisoundfi View Post


This is madness

 

I see it more like a declaration of love :ksc75smile:.

 

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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post


Them strain reliefs....
This is HEAD-FI!!! Wallets come to die here and I assure u they die when they are killed...

 

Yes but in the case of the Tenores the cost is so small you could say it's the little death ;).

 

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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

 

Let me try one first! :) 

 

Is there any mod for the strain reliefs? 

 

I am pretty sure that you don't need one, they can be worn easily over the ear which is a lot safer for the cables.

 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Eke thanks for the review! I'll definitely check out those songs. Crazy to think there's an iem out there that so many of us can appreciate. I will patiently wait for your future ASG-2 comparison. :P

 

Well, when neutral is done right it's hard to fail. It also has an impressive presentation that helps it sound exciting despite the absence of coloration. I am more impressed by it day by day, as i listen to older songs in my collection and it reproduces them all so effortlessly and naturally.

 

The beauty of this iem is that it just works. It's easy to wear, it's comfortable, it isolates well and no matter the source or the genre, it will deliver.

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