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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 70% (131)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 29% (56)
    Carbo Basso
187 Total Votes  
post #1441 of 4283
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Why do you say DIY?

Wow they are cheapo. Looking forward to the comparison.
I asked the same question a while back.

I guess DIY (do it yourself) because they order parts from other manufacturers and put them together.

I have the tenore on the way, but I absolutely love the hk1. Best bang for the buck iem I have. They have a solid build, huge soundstage, no sibilance, sparkles up top, very balanced, and nice sub bass that doesn't overpower the mids and with no mid bass hump. They make any music genre sound great. They are a little bright out of the box, but the more I listen to them the better they get. Only negatives are I get a little driver flex and they are very tip/insertion dependant to get the best sound.

I honestly have no idea how the tenore compares as I haven't heard them (yet) but they have the same size micro driver. I'm interested to find out.
post #1442 of 4283
Has a deep dark tonality to it very natural and smooth 😱, liking them alot😁..different signature then the kc06s but very capable 😍
post #1443 of 4283
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Has a deep dark tonality to it very natural and smooth 😱, liking them alot😁..different signature then the kc06s but very capable 😍

 

Interesting, I don't think anyone else so far has described these as dark sounding. More impressions, more!

post #1444 of 4283
They're not dark at all. They're just close to flat. Mochill is coming from stuff like the Flat-4 which has treble peaks
post #1445 of 4283
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post
 

 

Interesting, I don't think anyone else so far has described these as dark sounding. More impressions, more!

 

If mochill says they're dark, they're dark.  He's super credible- if only he posted more gifs and anime, he'd be the most insightful and articulate poster here.  :wink_face:

 

Apparently he's a sound engineer!?!

post #1446 of 4283
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Has a deep dark tonality to it very natural and smooth 😱, liking them alot😁..different signature then the kc06s but very capable 😍

Mochill are you getting any driver flex when you put them in you ears? My first pair sounded slightly dark, but there were issues with that pair.
post #1447 of 4283
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Originally Posted by roy_jones View Post

If mochill says they're dark, they're dark.  He's super credible- if only he posted more gifs and anime, he'd be the most insightful and articulate poster here.  wink_face.gif

Apparently he's a sound engineer!?!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zero-audio-zh-dx200-carbo-tenore-zh-dx210-carbo-basso-carbon-aluminium-iem-information-appreciation-and-impressions-thread/1155#post_10529863

They've already been measured and shown to have greater extension than the ER-4S. Like I said, he's coming from stuff with elevated treble. If you spent the last week listening to something like the Flat-4, anything neutral would sound darker to you, doesn't make it so.
post #1448 of 4283
I don't think you got Roy's sarcasm lol
post #1449 of 4283
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

I don't think you got Roy's sarcasm lol

I was gonna say LOL
post #1450 of 4283
I'd like to see Zero Audio put out a mic version, or better yet iPhone control version.
post #1451 of 4283
😋 love that dark ( black background) and yes you guys are all right better value the the kc06 gold and A version and anything else , no driver flex and so deep fit in in audio nirvana 😵
post #1452 of 4283
Hybrid plz zero audio and then you can have more of my monies😘
post #1453 of 4283

Tenores with Jays small-ish wide-bore tips. Certain tips will make the lowest bass slightly too powerful for my taste, the Jays tips though seem to relax the bass volume-wise and provides the most open, natural mid and treble to my ears so far.

 

 

Wow, these are terrific. Extremely clear, flat and smooth detail devoid of any problem areas, and using wide-bore tips the entire spectrum feels very open and natural.

They can have a very wonderful sense of presence in the treble region, making things like scratching fabric and similar textures feel really open, airy,  "windy" and natural. That same feel to the sound you'd get if you ran your fingers slowly over styrofoam, that whispy, breezy quality.

 

Micro-Transients are overall very good, I wasn't expecting that level from such a small driver. Clicks, clanks and such are very well-defined.

 

Macro-dynamics is the main area where I feel something like the much larger-driver Vsonic GR07 achieve a more dynamic sound, i.e dynamic areas of the sound can rise higher over the more non-dynamic portions of the sound. So the Tenores will not give the drums as loud/raised dynamic levels over the electric guitars, for example. This means that the GR07 will have a more air depth to their levels, while the Tenores present a slightly more concentrated feel (to put it another way, placing the snap of a snaredrum at the same perceived volume level, the Tenores will have a more in-your-face body to the sound, while the GR07 is more separated into the snap and the rest of the sound being a step away from you).

The advantage of this is that everything is presented in a very well-contained package for you to pick apart, if they had bigger "movement" to the dynamics of the music, they would not be as analytical, and it would be more of a chore to keep track of the "surface" of the audio if things dynamically stood out more.

 

Overall spectral balance really is superb. I think it's safe to say these do everything my Etymotic HF5s do, and more. The HF5s have a more rolled-off highest end and are slightly boosted in the lower treble compared to the Tenore, which really just effortlessly flows into the hypersonics. The Tenores seem to have a very mild lack of focus around 4-6KHz, making them ever so slightly less present-feeling and slightly emphasizing the upper treble, but other than that they absolutely shine for presenting every aspect of the spectrum in a very balanced, accessible way, all the way up to the highest treble. They are extremely airy and open-sounding thanks to this, anything containing lots of intricate treble details like crashing glass or glass shards trampled on the floor, glassy or metallic sounds in general, are very convincing and defined. If you imagine the sound a car engine makes as it cools down, that metallic ticking of engine parts contracting as they cool and creating very sharp, metallic textures, that quality is all in these headphones.

 

Mids are really gorgeous, very full, yet seemingly devoid of any bothersome resonant qualities. They remain silky smooth and nothing wants to create weird warbling or "wah"-y tonalities.

 

Sine sweeps reveal almost no dips or peaks at all as it moves towards 20K. Really, really impressive. 

 

Listening to movie dialogue will quickly reveal things like subtle upper treble noise during spoken portions which goes away as the sound mixer muted that dialogue track, really revealing the slightest nuances of the material.

 

Orchestral music is extremely well-presented, the mild dynamics keep the room sound and the instruments very cohesive with each other, while the excellent reach in the treble gives you every nuance of the reflections of the room and air, and the prickly nature of the transient response make plucked instruments perfectly audible, yet not overly obvious or standing out unnaturally.

 

 

Overall these really seem to really contend well with less dynamic, more prickly micro-textured micro-transient headphones like the Etymotic HF5 (they do feel very Etymotic BA-like to my ears, just with a fuller bass and less pronounced high mids). They cannot pack the same snappy, quick punch over the register when called for like the GR07s, but remain very well-detailed, delivering a well-defined layer of transient sharpness and stability over the main body of the sound, that give your ears a good sense of reliable texture and transparency even in thick congested parts.

 

These really don't do anything really wrong. As a complement for a GR07 for example they are great, the GR07s extremely lively, responsive dynamics and overall very energetic, excited tonality can often sound a bit inappropriate for orchestral music, as the music gets an exaggerated sense of foreground and background, with clicks and cracks and snaps often being very up-front when you want to feel like you are listening more to a somewhat distant room of instruments without anything coming through too aggressively.


Edited by Airlight - 5/16/14 at 3:17pm
post #1454 of 4283
Loving the treble as much as the ocharaku flat 4😋, and mids😋, and bassssss😋 everything screaming EPICNESS😁😱😰😍💕
post #1455 of 4283
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Loving the treble as much as the ocharaku flat 4😋, and mids😋, and bassssss😋 everything screaming EPICNESS😁😱😰😍💕

 

Who else saw this coming? :p

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