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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 70% (136)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 29% (58)
    Carbo Basso
194 Total Votes  
post #1291 of 4376
What do you plan to do with the defective pair mate?
post #1292 of 4376
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Originally Posted by roy_jones View Post
 

Their response might keep me from purchasing these.  I hate it when companies don't stand behind a product. 

 

I guess it's understandable on some level if the IEM is only intended for the Japanese market.

 

BenF, please update the thread with the response from the re-seller when you hear back...

I bought it through BuySmartJapan, which has an unusual return policy:

 


The Company shall not accept any Member’s request for return or exchange of Goods, except in cases where such request is based on causes attributable to the fault of the Company.
    ...

In cases where any initial defect is detected in Goods, Members shall directly contact the manufacturer of Goods and ask for repair or exchange. The Company and Suppliers shall not respond to any request for return or exchange of Goods due to initial defect.

 

So they won't help.

 

Final Audio Design IEMs are also intended for Japanese market only, but they have been tremendously helpful when I had a problem - even sent some free stuff.

They won't sell their IEMs directly to international buyers, but if you own one - they stand behind the product.

 

Zero Audio = Zero support.

post #1293 of 4376
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

What do you plan to do with the defective pair mate?


Stare angrily at it while poking a voodoo doll that represents ZA support personnel.

post #1294 of 4376
XD
post #1295 of 4376
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Originally Posted by avlad View Post

I think BenF is the first person who got an defective unit. The tenores doesn't even suffer from driver flex that screwed basso's owners.
That sucks big time Ben, I'm so sorry for your loss.

My Tenores turned out to be defective as well, but the seller, Vision Store from Amazon.com, seems to be accepting my return. I've sent them back and hopefully they'll provide a full refund.

The issue was driver flex and eventual channel imbalance. The drivers weren't properly vented, causing over-pressurization of the chamber after 20 minutes or so. Same thing can happen on the MH1 if they don't have some kind of bass vent. I just hope the sound was 100% before the over-pressurization issue kicked in, otherwise I may be updating my MH1 comparison.

I should have a new Tenore in a day or two, so we'll see.
post #1296 of 4376
You always heard driver flex? How severe was it?

That H200 driver flex I heard was something special....

I took to the AudioSigGen app to test stuff out.
post #1297 of 4376
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

You always heard driver flex? How severe was it?

That H200 driver flex I heard was something special....

I took to the AudioSigGen app to test stuff out.

I noticed it most of the time, can't be sure if it happened 100% of the time, although it was never as bad as the famous fxt90 driver flex. It only occurred to me yesterday that the driver flex and eventual channel imbalance were likely related due to improper venting. Like sgs said, something must have been blocking the bass vent from the inside. Glue or something maybe.
post #1298 of 4376
Ok,

I hear wub all the way down here:


I hear bumps around here and here:



I can hear sound up to around here:
post #1299 of 4376
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

I listen to a lot of pop music, both English and Korean, and a lot of it features the typical pop music elements but with female vocals.

I listen to mostly pop music as well.  Tenore are awesome for pop because they have airy female vocals and punchy bass.

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I see that you have had AX30. Can you compare Tenore and AX30? Especially in terms of bass depth and overall speed. And how about sibilance in Tenores compared to AX30? I have AX30 right now and I love balance armature speed, but also I am interested to try something new

Edited by Arnej - 5/13/14 at 9:12am
post #1301 of 4376
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Originally Posted by Arnej View Post
 
I see that you have had AX30. Can you compare Tenore and AX30? Especially in terms of bass depth and overall speed. And how about sibilance in Tenores compared to AX30? I have AX30 right now and I love balance armature speed, but also I am interested to try something new

I found the AX-30 to be more analytical and having less bass than Tenore.  The bass is clean, but not as deep sounding.   Tenore sounds more musical and has bass that is more weighty/deep/full sounding.

 

I don't remember how fast the bass was on AX30, but I don't find the Tenore bass to be slow.  Tenore bass sounds punchy and fast to me.

 

No sibilance on Tenore unless you turn it up to ear-bleeding levels.

post #1302 of 4376

Got my Tenore today. Really nice right out of the box. Had two ER4's and the MC5. Ety could learn a thing or two from ZA about tuning a micro dynamic  :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

You always heard driver flex? How severe was it?

That H200 driver flex I heard was something special....

 

Yeah, thanks a lot for that! :rolleyes:

 

Just kidding of course - I knew what I was getting into. Seriously though, the flex is quite minor on them now, and seems to have decreased over time. Or maybe it has to do with the tips that I'm using. At any rate, there is no flex when I put them in. If I start playing around and jack-hammering them in and out of my ears, then yes there is some flex, but even then I hardly notice it. And they still sound awesome :)

 

So like I said.. thanks a lot for that! 

:beerchug:

post #1304 of 4376

Mine are out for delivery today!!! If they leave me a slip without attempting to deliver I'm going to freak out. ;) haha. They do that often.

 

You know when you're an earphone junkie when you are about to receive a pair and you start worrying "will they fit well? how will they sound? what if they aren't as good as I hoped?" lol Not that I would think any of those.... no, not me....  ;) ;)

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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

Mine are out for delivery today!!! If they leave me a slip without attempting to deliver I'm going to freak out. wink.gif haha. They do that often.

You know when you're an earphone junkie when you are about to receive a pair and you start worrying "will they fit well? how will they sound? what if they aren't as good as I hoped?" lol Not that I would think any of those.... no, not me....  wink.gifwink.gif

The hype is palpable... What's your first track gonna be?
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