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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 70% (147)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 29% (62)
    Carbo Basso
209 Total Votes  
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

No problem.  I just tried the Meelec. tips with the mod SGS suggested and the sound broadens.  The spiral dot tips fit without the mod.  Really digging the sound.  Might be worth the investment.  

They definitely bring the best out of most earphones I own, even the Onkyos(yes, I still own them), the Tenores take on a more cohesive sound overall, and the bass sort of mellows out just that little bit that makes it that much more enjoyable. I think these would fit the Ostriches too, looking forward to it.
post #1202 of 4477
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post


They definitely bring the best out of most earphones I own, even the Onkyos(yes, I still own them), the Tenores take on a more cohesive sound overall, and the bass sort of mellows out just that little bit that makes it that much more enjoyable. I think these would fit the Ostriches too, looking forward to it.

I think there's more sub-bass coming out of the Tenore's with the wider-bore tips.  Haven't switched back to the hybrids yet but seems so.  

post #1203 of 4477
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

Thought the Tenore graph looked like something I'd seen before. Overlaid on the Heaven V Aging measurements on my phone so excuse the low quality attempt. Point of comparison is the raw gray line.



If this is accurate, then the Tenores have more bass than I expected from the impressions so far. A slightly flatter Heaven V with lower distortion and a few KHz more extension at the top. Sounds good.

Looking at the compensation, the HV might be a bit flatter through the lower treble as the Tenores would dip not come back up to 1k level at 3k, after that, no idea. Anyone who can take a better guess here, looking at you Inks wink.gif , please correct me if I'm wrong.

No chance, the HV is muddy compared to the Tenore, different simulators so the imposing wouldn't work
post #1204 of 4477
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

No chance, the HV is muddy compared to the Tenore, different simulators so the imposing wouldn't work

I figured given the different testing setups.

I dunno though, no direct comparison and a year later for muddy is kinda rough, although entirely in the realm of possibility. I'll probably order a Tenore this weekend. You fellas better be right tongue.gifsmile.gif
post #1205 of 4477
I always found the Heaven V muddy, though the subbass is superb for a BA but it lacks treble extension unlike the tenore
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Man, you guys must have some crazy hearing.  

post #1207 of 4477
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Man, you guys must have some crazy hearing.  

Just the crazy ones. I find the HV good, maybe not on par with the Fx850 in detail but I wouldn't call it muddy by any means.
post #1208 of 4477
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post


Just the crazy ones. I find the HV good, maybe not on par with the Fx850 in detail but I wouldn't call it muddy by any means.

Same here.  Didn't think the HV and muddy should be used in the same sentence or I need to clip my ear hairs.  

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850 is muddy too, some people here disagree, but there's just too much midbass going on and it masks the lower midrange, mud. The muddiness isn't huge though, just slight on both the Heaven V and 850, not what I'll call clean bass. I'm guessing those used to boosted bass don't mind.....


Edited by Inks - 5/9/14 at 10:42pm
post #1210 of 4477
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Same here.  Didn't think the HV and muddy should be used in the same sentence or I need to clip my ear hairs.  

beerchug.gif we have similar opinions. Should really meet up if I ever get to the US.
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

850 is muddy too, some people here disagree, but there's just too much midbass going on and it masks the lower midrange, mud. The muddiness isn't huge though, just slight on both the Heaven V and 850, not what I'll call clean bass. I'm guessing those used to boosted bass don't mind.....

Ah, that's what you meant. I read muddiness as incoherence in the mids and treble, resulting in muddy presentation, or slight distortion. Whoops
post #1211 of 4477
@Exesteils, I'll buy you a beer when you do.

@Inks, you sir have crazy (good) hearing.
post #1212 of 4477

i a/b the e17 n e18...think the e17 is muddier..so i bot the e18 ..lolz

 

this is a muddy post...gonna catch some zzz

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Since the HV is mentioned, can we have a comparison vs the Tenore. Will greatly appreciate some impression and thoughts. Thanks in advance, guys.

post #1214 of 4477
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

Man, you guys must have some crazy hearing.  

Lol he's right in his comment quoted below about the HV, I think. The main issue is that the bass colors the lower midrange, like 500-800Hz just a bit more than what would be ideal. You can hear it by EQing down the midbass a touch, like shotgunshane did when he heard the HV. In my experience, it makes the bass lose some of that organic character so I don't do it, but I understand the situation and the preference to do so entirely.

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

850 is muddy too, some people here disagree, but there's just too much midbass going on and it masks the lower midrange, mud. The muddiness isn't huge though, just slight on both the Heaven V and 850, not what I'll call clean bass. I'm guessing those used to boosted bass don't mind.....

Absolutely, I don't know about masks, but it definitely colors the lower midrange. More a tonality issue than a masking issue IMO but definitely there.

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Originally Posted by Leo888 View Post

Since the HV is mentioned, can we have a comparison vs the Tenore. Will greatly appreciate some impression and thoughts. Thanks in advance, guys.

Will do when I have the opportunity (and a Tenore) lol.
post #1215 of 4477

Is there Tenore vs GR07 comparison?
 

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