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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 69% (128)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 30% (56)
    Carbo Basso
184 Total Votes  
post #1156 of 4264
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

When I can get some time to write a review on the Tenore, I will most likely do comparisons with everything in my collection, since I feel it gives up nothing really to any of them at any price.

Regarding the KC06 and Tenore- there is nothing on the KC06 that I think is better than the Tenore. Nothing. The Tenore, to me, is a good couple of steps above it in all aspects- tonality, staging, imaging, resolution and FR.

O man o man o man, I'm a buy me some high class apple juice and order the most expensive subway sandwich when I get these! I must prepare the body!
post #1157 of 4264
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

They only have 1, the silicone tips

Also when I get a chance, I'll do Tenore vs FX850 conparison

Any ideas where to buy them?  When I search, I only get the replacement tips for hearing aid :p

 

Look forward to the FX850 compare!

post #1158 of 4264
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

They only have 1, the silicone tips

Also when I get a chance, I'll do Tenore vs FX850 conparison



I also have both the Tenore's and the JVC FX850. Without getting into a full review, I can make some general comments based on my listening and preferences:

Tenore: Very small, light and "forget-about-it" comfortable. FX850: Quite large and more difficult for me to get a good seal. Not as comfortable as Tenore.

Tenore: Soundstage seems appropriate to the venue and genre of the music. Good depth of imaging. FX850: Very large soundstage, less depth than Tenore. More in-your-face.

Tenore: Accuracy of timbre is just outstanding. Gives a great sense of realism. Needs fairly high volume to sound its best. FX850: Uber-detailed. Maybe more detail than one hears in a live performance. Sense of realism not as pronounced as Tenore.

Tenore: Rather low sensitivity, needs some horsepower behind it to sound its best. FX850: Very easily driven from nearly any source.

Cost: 8 prs. Tenore's = 1 pr. FX 850.

Overall, comparing the two seems to be somewhat like apples and oranges, as the phones are quite different and will likely fill different needs.

I find myself reaching for the Tenore's far more than for the 850's. As they say, YMMV!
post #1159 of 4264

Do any of you Tenore owners have the JVC HA-S680 over-ear headphones?  I'm still in tip-rolling process to find the best sound from Tenore (or so I'm told) and I get the feeling that at their peak, Tenore will sound as good as the S680s due to similar signature and stage.  Can anyone confirm/deny?

post #1160 of 4264
They were out of the Apple LaCream! No worries, next best thing!



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post #1161 of 4264
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Originally Posted by HiFlight View Post

I also have both the Tenore's and the JVC FX850. Without getting into a full review, I can make some general comments based on my listening and preferences:

Tenore: Very small, light and "forget-about-it" comfortable. FX850: Quite large and more difficult for me to get a good seal. Not as comfortable as Tenore.

Tenore: Soundstage seems appropriate to the venue and genre of the music. Good depth of imaging. FX850: Very large soundstage, less depth than Tenore. More in-your-face.

Tenore: Accuracy of timbre is just outstanding. Gives a great sense of realism. Needs fairly high volume to sound its best. FX850: Uber-detailed. Maybe more detail than one hears in a live performance. Sense of realism not as pronounced as Tenore.

Tenore: Rather low sensitivity, needs some horsepower behind it to sound its best. FX850: Very easily driven from nearly any source.

Cost: 8 prs. Tenore's = 1 pr. FX 850.

Overall, comparing the two seems to be somewhat like apples and oranges, as the phones are quite different and will likely fill different needs.

I find myself reaching for the Tenore's far more than for the 850's. As they say, YMMV!

So far I agree with everything. I'll say stock I slightly prefer the Tenore due to tighter bass compared to the slight bloat of the JVCs. EQed, they are in similar levels
post #1162 of 4264
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To be continued...
post #1163 of 4264
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

I compared Meelectronics double flange to Sony Hybrid tips

 
Orange:  Doesn't seal.
Pink:  Doesn't seal
Green:  Light seal.
Teal:  Seals well.  Less soundstage, less airy, less 3D effect than Meelectronics.  More bass quantity but not as tight.  Vocals more recessed.

My fit are the green ones, good confort and best sound. The m6 double flange don't fit me well enough and I get a shallow seal, weak bass and the treble get a bit recessed, less detailed. But we are different and is not something that will work for everyone the same. Anyway, they sound so great, but it's a bit more about them.

 

They are build and look very nice, the seal is very good and they are very confortable. I go outside with traffic and all and I still enjoy every detail on my music. The cable is very light and soft, some microphonics present thought but only when the music stops. And the leakage it's almost inexistent, I didn't got any complaint from my wife that told me before to shut my music in bed with vsd1s or pistons. So they have so much value in every aspect of an IEM. I don't have much experience with top tier IEMs, but from what I have in my little collection the tenores are, like I said before, few tiers above imo.

 

I forgot one more thing. There were ppl saying that tenores don't change much with burn in. They sound very good out of the box indeed. And for like first 100 hours I was using stock tips that sounded best for me. Sony hybrids screw some frecquencies and made them sound a bit weird, bit hollow with the huge soundstage, is hard to explain. But after some more hours they changed and now I'm sitting well above 200 hours and for sure they sound way better with the hybrids than stock tips for me. There are improvements in all freqencies, everything is enhanced, detailed and more forward from bass to mids and treble.


Edited by avlad - 5/8/14 at 2:23pm
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Tenore graphs like ER4S with more bass and more treble extension. The site also showed it had very low distortion and aligned polarity.
post #1165 of 4264

Inks, what site is that from?

post #1166 of 4264
Ryu Matsubas measuring site, note, measurements are raw. These will be flat no matter the compensation lol.

Link
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/zh-dx200-ct.html
post #1167 of 4264

I swear to god if the kiddie crew turn this thread into another of their anime threads like the Mirkos one...  :mad: 

 

There should be a separate forum for posters under the age of 18.  Truly. 

post #1168 of 4264
I agree ^^^
post #1169 of 4264

If I hear another thing about these before i get them in the mail my head is going to explode!  I'm expecting greatness! These look like what I've been searching for to a T.

post #1170 of 4264
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

Do any of you Tenore owners have the JVC HA-S680 over-ear headphones?  I'm still in tip-rolling process to find the best sound from Tenore (or so I'm told) and I get the feeling that at their peak, Tenore will sound as good as the S680s due to similar signature and stage.  Can anyone confirm/deny?


Tenores will sound very different from S680, as S680 is best at sub-bass and bass, while Tenore's strong side is mids and highs.

Bassos are much closer to the S680 sound signature.

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