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Poll Results: This is my headphone. I am finished. I've owned these for more than 1 year.

 
  • 15% (56)
    Stax SR009
  • 4% (18)
    Stax SR007 Mk 1 or 2
  • 6% (25)
    Audeze LCD2 inc revision 2
  • 10% (39)
    Audeze LCD3
  • 8% (30)
    Fostex TH900
  • 29% (108)
    Sennheiser HD800
  • 2% (10)
    Sennheiser Orpheus
  • 1% (6)
    Sony MDR10 Bass heavy or light
  • 4% (15)
    JH Audio Or Custom in ear monitors
  • 3% (14)
    Beyerdynamic T1
  • 11% (42)
    any I've missed? Please post
363 Total Votes  
post #556 of 834
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Originally Posted by dc-k View Post
 

and if you're in Sweden, I'm guessing the end game audio kit is not that much more expensive than the alcohol...

It's shocking how expensive it is! Therefore some trips to Denmark/Germany is a must. :))

post #557 of 834
Thread Starter 
Nice to see a classic turntable get in on the action. The Sonndek has been around since I was a kid. What did you try out before you got the lcd3s?
post #558 of 834
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Originally Posted by Takeanidea View Post

Nice to see a classic turntable get in on the action. The Sonndek has been around since I was a kid. What did you try out before you got the lcd3s?

That's a nice Dual turntable, not a Linn LP12.
post #559 of 834
Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeanidea View Post

Nice to see a classic turntable get in on the action. The Sonndek has been around since I was a kid. What did you try out before you got the lcd3s?
Like Steve said it's a dual but it sure is nice smily_headphones1.gif

Ehm I tried some Hifiman models, Hd700, Hd800, some beyers etc. Lcd-3 were my choice in the end!
post #560 of 834
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Originally Posted by SteveM324 View Post

That's a nice Dual turntable, not a Linn LP12.
It sure is nice! Cost 100euro when dad bought it ages ago smily_headphones1.gif
post #561 of 834
Thread Starter 
Oops! Sorry about that.
Am still happy with my Dacmagic Plus Fidelity Audio HPA200 SE and Sennheiser HD800 setup. I bet I'd be happy without the DacMagic Plus or the HPA200 and just the source.
So I think (hope) I've come a long way since I started this thread.
Am sure there are others out there still looking at the latest flavour of the month and taking it with a pinch of salt
post #562 of 834
For a headphone rig, yes, I'm done. Laptop>Lynx Hilo>Rotel 125w monoblocks>HE-6. I don't look for the absolute best in audio reproduction to come from a headphone. That's what speakers are for. I do want to hear what's intended and seduce myself into believing it's real. This is good enough for me to do that.
post #563 of 834
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

For a headphone rig, yes, I'm done. Laptop>Lynx Hilo>Rotel 125w monoblocks>HE-6. I don't look for the absolute best in audio reproduction to come from a headphone. That's what speakers are for. I do want to hear what's intended and seduce myself into believing it's real. This is good enough for me to do that.

 

QFT.

post #564 of 834

Magni/Modi with skullcandies. Jealous? :biggrin:

post #565 of 834

I feel like I'm very close to my end game system. Moved on to speakers and can't tolerate the presentation of headphones anymore for music when I switch from my monitors. I use them only for watching movies or shows.

 

DAC / Monitor Controller: Dangerous Music Source. Amazing DAC and a solid monitor controller. Even headphones out of it sound amazing. Far better value than the likes of BHA-1/BDA-2 or NAD M51 - both which I've tried extensively through Audeze and Hifimans. Believe it or not, the sound is right at their level and I actually prefer the DM Source over the other two. Bryston gets hot. NAD is more neutral but doesn't quite have the rhythm. The DM Source is definitely not going anywhere for many years to come. The first end game equipment in my chain. 

 

Amps: I have monitors (aka powered) so this pretty much eliminates amps from the situation. If I update my monitors, I'll just pick up another set of monitors. Don't want to deal with passive bookshelves or towers. Too much of a headache to have separates and looking for that synergy. It makes it much easier to just take the DM Source by itself to auditions with various monitors. It's simpler and actually gets much better value in my opinion. Very efficient this way.

 

Monitors: Mackie HR824 MK1. These get mixed response in the audio community for mixing purposes. Although in my big room (6 x 20 metres) and for listening to music, these are really good. Super tight bass. Can actually get away without subwoofer. Deep bass for electronic and not fatiguing whatsoever. What I paid for them made them a no-brainer. Next upgrade for main monitors will probably be well over $2k.

 

Even the HR's IMO beat many of the high end passive rigs (Luxman, KEF, Bryston, NAD, PSB, Marantz, Emotiva, Focal) I've tried for many hours. Monitors are apparently supposed to sound boring…but no one told me that. I actually love the sound of monitors. They are anything but boring. They are more fun to listen to. I love the clarity on them. Hifi stuff seem to always restrict on the transparency. It's like they have details and are pushing for transparency, but they don't get it right. The PSB Image and Imagine sound trash to me straight up. KEF on the other hand sounds much better, especially their R series. The Q is much better value. Focals can get bright.

 

The best thing I love about my monitors over the hifi speakers and headphones I've owned (HE-500, LCD-2 and LCD-3) and tried is their mid range clarity. Even the Audezes aren't that transparent and actually suffer from their soundstage. It's probably more of the inherent headphone design. I can hear everything with my monitors without having to search through the presentation actively. On the other hand, it never gets shouty in it's FR and the soundstage it throws. It's just there, around you - perfectly.

 

I had to spend a bit of time to set up the Mackies in my room and treatment, but it definitely paid off.

 

Headphones: The Denon's and KRK's are serving well at the moment. After having dealt with various Audezes and Hifiman, I am not going for them again due to their weight and amplification requirements. Only desire is for Fostex and maybe the new Hifimans which are more comfortable and are easier to drive. Going to keep it simple. No more driving headphones out of monster headphone and speaker amplifiers. They must also sound, naturally. I will only get another headphone if it meets all three of these criteria: sound, comfort, high sensitivity.

 

Software: FWIW I recently upgraded my Audirvana Plus after 2 years and the newer models just blew me away. They really made the DM Source shine. They have pretty much solved the "music sounding digital" problem. I have tried Amarra, JRiver, Foobar, Amarra, BitPerfect and a few more that I can't remember. Overall, Audirvana Plus takes it with ease in it's sound and ease of use. Never crashes, doesn't slow down if I have many other apps going.

 

Overall, DM Source is final. Future headphone upgrade -> must be efficient and comfy. Not willing to sacrifice on these two points this time around. Mackies are getting the job done quite well for my main room. Still looking for desktop/computer speakers. Really love the new Audirvana Plus and sticking with that.

 

My goal is to basically get the simplest, hassle free system that has the best value and the sound I'm going for. For what I spent at the moment, this is definitely end game for awhile.

 

Headphone end game: I'm not sure if I'm one of those speakers guys or not but I have come to my personal realization that there is no headphone end game system. Regardless of the headphone I've tried, there's always something that's irritating me. In all cases, soundstage is one of the lacking things. Headphones just cannot throw a proper soundstage. Period. Not even Stax or HD800. Nothing sounds like it's coming from the front as it does from speakers. Having said that, I'll still try to find my right pair of headphones when the time calls for them: Late at night or just feeling lazy and want to crash somewhere. :D 

 

The most important and ultimate distinction for me between headphones and speakers is that with upgrades, you can get a better sound, however, with headphones there's always something that's going to be bothering me (soundstage). With speakers, you can always get better sound, but chances are it won't at least be irritating in it's soundstage. It's an inherent headphone limitation.


Edited by Zoom25 - 3/22/14 at 3:55pm
post #566 of 834

Not really much left for me....

 

Oppo BDP-83 source for discs not in the pic. 

post #567 of 834

Im done with headphones for now . i have all the pieces i need for my Listening sessions.

 

Source - Pc Jriver /maybe an Oppo 105( i have a borrowed one - friend is out of town for 2 months LOL)

DAC - NAD M51

Cables - Acoustic Zen MC2 Digital , Wireworld Starlight 7 USB ,Cardas HDMI

Pre amp - Decware CSP2+ ( 1x Mullard GZ37 , 2x 6N1P russian , 1x tungsram 6922 )

Cables : 2x Morrow MA1 and 1x MA3

Amp - ALO Studio Six ( 1xTSRP, 2x Pope 6v6 , 2x Mullard OD2 , 1x Mullard GZ34)

Cable - Toxic Silver Poison  headphone cable / Toxic Silver Widow 

Headphone - Audeze LCD-X

For me i have already tweaked most cables . the only thing i need now are power cords .

This will be it for a long while - it sounds incredible to me - think of it as a system with an ALo amp which is already very good and when u combine it wiht the csp2+ it just makes it excellent and in another level .

 

Ill post images later on .

post #568 of 834
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Originally Posted by screwdriver View Post
 

Im done with headphones for now . i have all the pieces i need for my Listening sessions.

 

Source - Pc Jriver /maybe an Oppo 105( i have a borrowed one - friend is out of town for 2 months LOL)

DAC - NAD M51

Cables - Acoustic Zen MC2 Digital , Wireworld Starlight 7 USB ,Cardas HDMI

Pre amp - Decware CSP2+ ( 1x Mullard GZ37 , 2x 6N1P russian , 1x tungsram 6922 )

Cables : 2x Morrow MA1 and 1x MA3

Amp - ALO Studio Six ( 1xTSRP, 2x Pope 6v6 , 2x Mullard OD2 , 1x Mullard GZ34)

Cable - Toxic Silver Poison  headphone cable / Toxic Silver Widow 

Headphone - Audeze LCD-X

For me i have already tweaked most cables . the only thing i need now are power cords .

This will be it for a long while - it sounds incredible to me - think of it as a system with an ALo amp which is already very good and when u combine it wiht the csp2+ it just makes it excellent and in another level .

 

Ill post images later on .

Glad you are enjoying the NAD.  Have you tried SACD to NAD HDMI?  What do you think?

post #569 of 834
I guess my take-away after reading all 38 pages is that end-game should mean "where are you content enough to leave well enough alone and just buy music" or when you aren't constantly asking "but what if..." or "if I added..." or "if I changed..." etc and just leave things as they are. Or put another way, when everytime you sit down to listen you want to play the "how does this sound..." game, or when new music is just as exciting as new gear used to be (even after months, or years). Or when you realize that your other cans are getting almost no usage, or when new/other cans (or gear in general) hold no interest for you. And based on that criteria, I think I've been there for a while (at least a year) with the ESP/950 and W5000 (and no I haven't gone about much "amp rolling" with these - when I first got them I tried them on probably half a dozen different amp/source setups and found that I honestly don't notice much, if any, difference so I just gave up and went with the HP out on my TEAC D/A because it's (deadly) quiet and the volume control has a smooth action (and it reduces clutter/complexity substantially)). I could honestly live with either all by itself if I had to, and consider myself fortunate to have both available.

I would agree with the post (not going to be able to find the page again redface.gif) that posited that it's kind of a bitter-sweet resolution - the "magic" of new gear and discovery is kind of gone, but on the other hand; there's a lot of great music out there to play around with!

I voted for "other" in the poll.
post #570 of 834

Well i am certain i am not one of them since i always change my setup every two months

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