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The DAP we want from iriver.

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

I approached JmoonAK almost a week ago and asked him if he would allow me to open a thread where we(the community) can provide our feedback/request on the DAP that we would like to see from iriver. I know that iriver reads this threads carefully and I really hope this thread can provide us a method where we can send our request across.

 

So here goes nothing.

post #2 of 19
Thread Starter 

My own request:

 

1-Remove optical feature and instead provide pure lineout from the DAC

2-Keep the same battery life and size format as the current AK models

3-It will be suitable for the large portion of IEM in the market

post #3 of 19

here are mine:

smaller size if possible

suitable for most IEM

larger storage inside the player (for that price you can easily add an 128GB flash memory)

full size SDXC support (it can be nice)

pure line out option from the dec 

and i would love an old school controllers like the old irivers and cowons 

post #4 of 19
Same design as IHP 120 size doesn't really bother me.Dual dac chip,sd cards,128 gb internal 15hours+battery life and full codec support 24/192 and usb dac.I think is possible .
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 

As much 128 GB internal is great but it is much cheaper to get microSD, internal memory of such size in a compact format is not cheap enough yet. 

post #6 of 19

hmm too bad.. but how expensive can it be? 

to the end point user its about 100$ so it's suppose to be way chipper for the company to get it,

but if it's not dual sdxc cards or sd card sluts will be nice 

post #7 of 19

less than 1ohm OI.

 

a decent inner Amp.

post #8 of 19
Rather than an ultimate DAP with all these wanted features I'd like to see an AK50, something under their AK100 that could compete with DAP's like Colourfly C3, Rocco BA etc.. They have the mid and high tier sections filled, time to focus on the lower price point to catch a variety of consumers.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Same design as IHP 120 size doesn't really bother me.Dual dac chip,sd cards,128 gb internal 15hours+battery life and full codec support 24/192 and usb dac.I think is possible .


An updated design on the ihp 120.  This was (and I have said this ad nauseum)all I ever wanted.  I've done the mod to 128 gig ssd (and contemplated the switch to 256!).


Gapless playback (seriously why does no one aside from Apple get this??!)

Removeable battery (the hard drive mod was easy on the ihp compared to the battery mod)

Decent Battery life (I STILL get 13 hours on rockbox with ssd on THE ORIGINAL battery from what, 2003,4 ish)

Slimmer build to the ihp whilst still keeping the originals bombproof construction

Decent file selection (see the fiio x3 as an example)

128gig (plus microsd or sd expandability)

Drag and Drop.

 

Cheers

post #10 of 19
I would love to have better playlist support.

- I'd like to be able to create a playlist on my computer (MediaMonkey) and be able to use that on the player as well.
- I'd also rather have physical buttons/wheel to browse the player
- Loose the volume knob and replace it with buttons.
- More stable firmware (database scanning, not cutting off VBR songs, etc)
- True Lineout (don't need a digital in)
- Keep the digital out!
- Current size is great. I could tolerate a little larger if need be (longer/wider...not thicker)
- Lower output impedance
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post


An updated design on the ihp 120....
...Drag and Drop.

Cheers

+1 to all davidcotton's post

I still use my H140 and H340. They weren't cheap but neither did they carry recession proof jewellery prices like current irivers.

A colour screen is nice for cover art and I guess it's needed for marketing the player.

Gapless is a must. Proper gapless, not just claims and smaller gaps (!), or vague assurances that maybe in a future firmware update one day. I run Rockbox on my old players for this and other features. A music player that inserts clicks and gaps into music is as useful to me as a car with oval wheels.

Let the user decide which tags get displayed, and how. I use the composer and comment metadata fields for a reason and I'm not interested in software or hardware players whose designers didn't notice that paying customers might be interested in music beyond youth culture.

re replaceable batteries: I'm not going to spend real money on something that might die in three years time and not be serviceable.

If it costs hundreds of pounds but isn't supplied with a reasonable case and a tough screen I won't be buying it.

If it doesn't support unicode in both filenames and tags I won't be buying it.

I don't care about multiple dacs and replaceable amps. You can choose the right amp and dac and people who need a particular tonal response can use appropriate headhones.

Bookmarking and resume matter.

Sleep timer matters.

Must support flac, mp3, m4a, wav.

Must support common sample rates without conversion.

Must have reasonable capacity and be expandable via SDHC or microSDHC.

Basic playback and volume control via controls that can be operated one handed and unsighted.

If it needs special software or a proprietary USB cable I'm not buying it.

Wishlist:

Meier type crossfeed.
Proper parametric EQ.
Option to use large text and high contrast.
Option for voice menus.

Basically iriver should shower Rockbox in money and love and ask them to rework it to support multiple sample rates and then just use Rockbox. Brand it any way agreeable to all parties or whatever but that is the standard for player firmware and I won't ever again be paying £100s for a player that is clunky and impossible to adapt to my preferences.
post #12 of 19

iHP 120, H320 again.
But with flash memory + microSD slot.

Charging from PC, battery life about 30 hours.

Sound, maybe just more powerful, using some extra internal amp like on AD8397.
And price about 200$.

It will be the best Iriver.

Even just stock iRiver 120 and/or h320 much better than all Irivers made now.

post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Berkovajazz View Post

And price about 200$.

And I'd like mine for free and delivered by a sheer satin clad Norse Goddess in a generous mood.

It's worth remembering that the H120 in 2003 cost almost US $400. That's equivalent to $500 in 2013. The 40GB players cost more. The H300 series cost some more again.

Storage is one item that is obviously much cheaper, but we want more of it and prefer SSD to disk.
post #14 of 19
The wow tablet shrunk down to a 5 incer with Dual chips and dual micro sdxc. All the modern fixings. I will give both arms and legs
Edited by D3Seeker - 5/23/13 at 8:45pm
post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by D3Seeker View Post

The wow tablet shrunk down to a 5 incer with Dual chips and dual micro sdxc. All the modern fixings. I will give both arms and legs


Careful this is AK with their pricing system they just might take them.

 

A no bs straight up decent user interface. A decent on board eq (licence electi q if you have to).

 

User selectable impedance.

 

As much onboard ram as possible 128 or 256 GB and damn the battery life, if you have to go with a higher cap battery then do it.

 

Absolute clean line out output. And none of this piggybacking on the headphone out for a digital out nonesense.

 

2 SD cards with the ability to copy between those and ability to read an external HDD and do the same with that.

 

If you cannot do that for under 600 retail, don't bother trying. There are 50 other companies who will.

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