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Originally Posted by minhquancanon7d View Post

How does it compare to the sm64? The sm64 is too dark for me so if the asg2's that level of darkness, then I'll try sth else

For the money, I'd look into the Fisher Audio FA-4E, or one of the Ocharaku phones if you found the SM64 to be dark
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Originally Posted by minhquancanon7d View Post

How does it compare to the sm64? The sm64 is too dark for me so if the asg2's that level of darkness, then I'll try sth else

I have a feeling ASG-2 may not be for you then. For a slight V-shape check out FA-4E Xb.
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Ocharaku flat4sui? Can it be driven properly from an iphone? I cant find the fa4 in Vietnam so that's a shame
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Yeah, the Flat-4 sounds great from an iPhone. One of my favorite phones as a matter of fact. I think Fisher, who makes the FA-4E is Russian or something, is it not possible to import it? I'm not sure what brands are available to you in Vietnam unfortunately
post #4475 of 6837
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Yeah, the Flat-4 sounds great from an iPhone. One of my favorite phones as a matter of fact. I think Fisher, who makes the FA-4E is Russian or something, is it not possible to import it? I'm not sure what brands are available to you in Vietnam unfortunately

Nah Fischer Amps (Germany) and Fischer Audio (Russia) are different companies.

Thomann Should deliver to Vietnam with a good delivery charge =/
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Just got my algorhythm duet and running the ASG-2 with them. I've never heard such a large soundstage from the ASG-2 before, and it gives the ASG-2 a nice sense of air and space that is quite impressive in a darker iem. Also... the imaging :basshead:

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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Yeah, the Flat-4 sounds great from an iPhone. One of my favorite phones as a matter of fact. I think Fisher, who makes the FA-4E is Russian or something, is it not possible to import it? I'm not sure what brands are available to you in Vietnam unfortunately

Nah Fischer Amps (Germany) and Fischer Audio (Russia) are different companies.

Thomann Should deliver to Vietnam with a good delivery charge =/

Like 50€ or something. They also deduct the taxes for some countries outside of EU which should make them about the same cost, depending on import fees in Vietnam, as buying in EU. Also the extended warranty is nice. Even if it will cost some to ship them back for exchanges...
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Originally Posted by alan73 View Post
 

I just thought it would be interesting to throw EX1000 into the mix. Also they are older than all the other iems in the comparison, so more people probably have heard them (I haven't) and can use them as a point of reference. And aren't they priced in the same ballpark as ASG2?

 

I'll compare the EX1000 to the K3003, since they're the closest overall in sound signature.

 

 

Song used: The Party - Regina Spektor (I'm in a rush to head to the post office, and this song is a good test for a space, realism, and a bunch of other audiophile words).

 

The K3003 is obviously better. Detailing is better, the treble is more natural and refined. The EX1000 loses composure when the song gets busy with trumpets and cymbals, and when Regina starts hitting higher notes. Soundstage dimensions are similar, but the EX1000 is tuned in a way that can sound more open. On the flip side, it sounds more hollow than the K3003. Vocals are sweeter/richer on the K3003. 

 

My criteria for tier separation (top tier vs lower tier) is how refined the sound is. Think of a pair of artisan leather dress shoes, painstakingly crafted to give off the sense of ultimate luxury and pride to the owner. That is the K3003. The EX1000 is a good pair of leather dress shoes, perhaps among the best from your local Macy's or similar department store. 

 

A friend asked me about the bass of the EX1000 compared to the K3003, and the latter is again more superior. It sounds perfectly integrated with the sound, while letting the advantages of each driver type shine through. 

 


 

God-damn. I think the K3003 might be the most wholesome phone I've heard. I was planning on buying a camera replacement/upgrade, but the K3003 is tempting me otherwise.

 

 


 

 

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Originally Posted by tyojpn View Post

I am one of the few who actually own K3003 and S-EM6.

I am the one who do not admire K3003 over S-EM6. They are just so much different from each other and both are very good in different ways.

Also read other threads but I find the attitude towards S-EM6 shown by the OP is too extremeradical.

Just to remind that we all have different senses towards sound.

May be ASG-2 is an interesting piece, but I would rather go out and try myself because it seems we have surprisingly different preferences.
Imagine Earsonics too is surprised how much anyone can dislike their sound.
 
 
Preference is one thing. Technical performance is another. The EM6 makes the ASG-2 and Noble 6 sound bright in comparison. The EM6 is bloated and muddy in the lower mids and upper bass, with poor treble. I will not take back that I've heard iems below half the EM6's price that are better. Much better.

Edited by eke2k6 - 2/3/14 at 2:21pm
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I know that you have already opened various comparison threads and every time S-EM6 is criticized just because it is out of your taste.

 

I expect that you might open similar threads in future and then this is going to be repeated over and over.

 

Well, we all have already understood you likings but a statement such as "this shouldn't worth half of its price, this is totally waste of money blah blah" is lacking objectivity, and it is really doubtful that it benefits other people reading.

You sound like Earsonincs is a scammer or something.

 

Once again I would like to stress to everyone, S-EM6 is very different compared to K3003 but it is NOT BAD. Those two are just heading different directions.

 

Please, we should try to be objective when we speak out in internet.

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Originally Posted by tyojpn View Post

I know that you have already opened various comparison threads and every time S-EM6 is criticized just because it is out of your taste.

I expect that you might open similar threads in future and then this is going to be repeated over and over.

Well, we all have already understood you likings but a statement such as "this shouldn't worth half of its price, this is totally waste of money blah blah" is lacking objectivity, and it is really doubtful that it benefits other people reading.
You sound like Earsonincs is a scammer or something.

Once again I would like to stress to everyone, S-EM6 is very different compared to K3003 but it is NOT BAD. Those two are just heading different directions.

Please, we should try to be objective when we speak out in internet.

So objectively, by about how many dB's does 8k differ from 1k on the S-EM6? Is 8k quieter? If so by how much?
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tyojpn View Post
 

I know that you have already opened various comparison threads and every time S-EM6 is criticized just because it is out of your taste.

 

I expect that you might open similar threads in future and then this is going to be repeated over and over.

 

Well, we all have already understood you likings but a statement such as "this shouldn't worth half of its price, this is totally waste of money blah blah" is lacking objectivity, and it is really doubtful that it benefits other people reading.

You sound like Earsonincs is a scammer or something.

 

Once again I would like to stress to everyone, S-EM6 is very different compared to K3003 but it is NOT BAD. Those two are just heading different directions.

 

Please, we should try to be objective when we speak out in internet.

 

You keep repeating this "taste" thing. Please read what I've posted.

 

Secondly, this thread was made long before I even heard of the EM6. I also didn't say it's a waste of money, rather that it is a very poor value. There are several cheaper phones that are objectively better in terms of SQ refinement, soundstage, clarity, detailing, speed, tightness, etc.

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


So objectively, by about how many dB's does 8k differ from 1k on the S-EM6? Is 8k quieter? If so by how much?

 

Going by my tone sweeps, 

 

there's a huge dip at 4500 Hz, which very slowly rises until it peaks again at 7kHz. This is what I think is responsible for the deadened harmonics in instruments, especially how it makes the snare drum a thud instead of the characteristic snap.

post #4483 of 6837

Thinking about the Hf3 - but need to know if it is like this...

 

Fun, but without structure...

 

 

Or structured, but a little fun...

 

 

These are the things that keep me and my wallet up at night.

post #4484 of 6837
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

I'll compare the EX1000 to the K3003, since they're the closest overall in sound signature.


Song used: The Party - Regina Spektor (I'm in a rush to head to the post office, and this song is a good test for a space, realism, and a bunch of other audiophile words).

The K3003 is obviously better. Detailing is better, the treble is more natural and refined. The EX1000 loses composure when the song gets busy with trumpets and cymbals, and when Regina starts hitting higher notes. Soundstage dimensions are similar, but the EX1000 is tuned in a way that can sound more open. On the flip side, it sounds more hollow than the K3003. Vocals are sweeter/richer on the K3003. 

My criteria for tier separation (top tier vs lower tier) is how refined the sound is. Think of a pair of artisan leather dress shoes, painstakingly crafted to give off the sense of ultimate luxury and pride to the owner. That is the K3003. The EX1000 is a good pair of leather dress shoes, perhaps among the best from your local Macy's or similar department store. 

A friend asked me about the bass of the EX1000 compared to the K3003, and the latter is again more superior. It sounds perfectly integrated with the sound, while letting the advantages of each driver type shine through. 

God-damn. I think the K3003 might be the most wholesome phone I've heard. I was planning on buying a camera replacement/upgrade, but the K3003 is tempting me otherwise.



Glad I could make a difference LOL
post #4485 of 6837
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

You keep repeating this "taste" thing. Please read what I've posted.

Secondly, this thread was made long before I even heard of the EM6. I also didn't say it's a waste of money, rather that it is a very poor value. There are several cheaper phones that are objectively better in terms of SQ refinement, soundstage, clarity, detailing, speed, tightness, etc.


Quit A/Bing and looking at graphs.

Then you will know.

Or if you are that good go to Earsonics and teach them something. Presume some of them might be reading your things already.
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