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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

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You already have a flat-ish signature in the 1plus2,

Flat-ish? I definitely hear it as U shaped. Hyped up bass and treble.
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That first page is getting quite epic, Eke. Great ongoing work, and it really is becoming a hugely useful tool.

 

Now then, curses! ...cause you make me want to get hold of the Fischers... I've been thinking about it anyway lately, and I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time. 

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I'm almost ready to say Fischers here I come. But I still need to give the borrowed CK100pro another try and then save up some money. But from what I've heard of the CK100pros and from what I've read about the FA-4E they should fit me way better. Thanks again Eke for your passionate and personal writings.
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Flat-ish? I definitely hear it as U shaped. Hyped up bass and treble.

 

True, but I don't think the FA-4 will be different enough.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
 

That first page is getting quite epic, Eke. Great ongoing work, and it really is becoming a hugely useful tool.

 

Now then, curses! ...cause you make me want to get hold of the Fischers... I've been thinking about it anyway lately, and I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time. 

 

:beerchug:

 

It's definitely worth it. And the price is far from prohibitive.

 

 

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I'm almost ready to say Fischers here I come. But I still need to give the borrowed CK100pro another try and then save up some money. But from what I've heard of the CK100pros and from what I've read about the FA-4E they should fit me way better. Thanks again Eke for your passionate and personal writings.

 

Really? What did you think of the CK100? I never got to ask you.

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Hmm the FA-4E looks pretty nice. More forward upper mids than the F111 puts it at ER4S (stock filters) levels. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the 6.5k treble emphasis. That can be a dangerous area for sibilance and harsh treble in general.

Eke I thought the F111 would be more to your liking, but it seems maybe a little too focused on mids and not sub-bass and treble. I've got a feeling you wouldn't like the ER4S very much... Its less warm but more mids and treble.
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@gnarlsagan just trying this probably useless new @ thing.

Eke is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma surrounded by a Piano Forte shell.

The real question is, Mr. Owl...


Edit: Yup, more useless than I thought. I'll wait for hashtags. rolleyes.gif
Edited by vwinter - 10/12/13 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Hmm the FA-4E looks pretty nice. More forward upper mids than the F111 puts it at ER4S (stock filters) levels. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the 6.5k treble emphasis. That can be a dangerous area for sibilance and harsh treble in general.

Eke I thought the F111 would be more to your liking, but it seems maybe a little too focused on mids and not sub-bass and treble. I've got a feeling you wouldn't like the ER4S very much... Its less warm but more mids and treble.

But the ER-4S bass may be its strongest aspect (at least to me). It's amazingly detailed and textured. Mids are pretty transparent too.
Edited by shotgunshane - 10/12/13 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Hmm the FA-4E looks pretty nice. More forward upper mids than the F111 puts it at ER4S (stock filters) levels. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the 6.5k treble emphasis. That can be a dangerous area for sibilance and harsh treble in general.

Eke I thought the F111 would be more to your liking, but it seems maybe a little too focused on mids and not sub-bass and treble. I've got a feeling you wouldn't like the ER4S very much... Its less warm but more mids and treble.

 

 

Hm, I actually find the F111's mids to be much more forward. Maybe I need to reword that sentence :D

 

FWIW, I find the HF5 to be much more agreeable than the F111, I dunno man, it's just the way it presents the mids. If you're going to have something so in your face, why not make it clear and uncolored. Maybe it has something to do with the fancy horn design.

 

I haven't heard any major sibilance yet, even with more energetic songs. 

 

I might actually have a go with the ER4S in the coming days. I'll add it to the thread too if all goes well.

 

 

 

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Eke is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma surrounded by a Piano Forte shell.
 

 

And it's a shame, because I was told to be the opposite :)

 

 

 

 

 

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But the ER-4S bass may be its strongest aspect (at least to me). It's amazingly detailed and textured. Mids are pretty transparent too.

 

I also really liked the HF5's bass. And I hear the ER4S' treble is actually more refined than that of the HF5, which I don't think is possible. I'm just looking forward to it.

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The treble is pretty darn good too but the k3k takes the cake for that.
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Now we eagerly await your review of all those in ears you have.

 

Yes, hope to write something eventually.

 

But Eke does such a good job already :bigsmile_face:

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Yes, hope to write something eventually.

 

But Eke does such a good job already :bigsmile_face:

 

More opinions are always better :L3000:

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Great review and comparison!! smily_headphones1.gif
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Hm, I actually find the F111's mids to be much more forward. Maybe I need to reword that sentence biggrin.gif

FWIW, I find the HF5 to be much more agreeable than the F111, I dunno man, it's just the way it presents the mids. If you're going to have something so in your face, why not make it clear and uncolored. Maybe it has something to do with the fancy horn design.

I haven't heard any major sibilance yet, even with more energetic songs. 

I might actually have a go with the ER4S in the coming days. I'll add it to the thread too if all goes well.




And it's a shame, because I was told to be the opposite smily_headphones1.gif








I also really liked the HF5's bass. And I hear the ER4S' treble is actually more refined than that of the HF5, which I don't think is possible. I'm just looking forward to it.

Ah okay I see what you're saying. The F111 can sound a little warm, but for the most part I think I just hear it differently. I find it to have more 3D imaging vs the ER4S for example. Our old friend sparrow (RIP) actually wasn't at all impressed with the F111, but then went on to love the ER4S. Go figure. They're different but not drastically different, but I think maybe DF tuning hits a sweet spot where everything comes together, and too much deviation can take away from convincing tonality and presentation. That and fit consistency pretty much sucks with the F111.
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The treble is pretty darn good too but the k3k takes the cake for that.

I'll believe it when I hear it. tongue.gif
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The fa 4e aren't really that good tongue.gif

Really nice impressions though

Liked the dry gin baileys passage
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 10/13/13 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post


Ah okay I see what you're saying. The F111 can sound a little warm, but for the most part I think I just hear it differently. I find it to have more 3D imaging vs the ER4S for example. Our old friend sparrow (RIP) actually wasn't at all impressed with the F111, but then went on to love the ER4S. Go figure. They're different but not drastically different, but I think maybe DF tuning hits a sweet spot where everything comes together, and too much deviation can take away from convincing tonality and presentation. That and fit consistency pretty much sucks with the F111.

 

 

It's a strange tuning to my ears, alright :D

 

 

 

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Great review and comparison!! smily_headphones1.gif

 

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The fa 4e aren't really that good tongue.gif

Really nice impressions though

Liked the dry gin baileys passage

 

:beerchug: 

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