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True, well just to be on the record I truly respect and appreciate what Rin does and it is certainly not an easy procedure, it takes time and few IEM makers actually pay professional pretty penny or two to do what he does and yet he does it for free so the head-fi community (and community of similar nature) can use it if they wish to. 

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I honestly think how they tend to approach things leaves a sour taste in many peoples mouths. As if they are getting enjoyment cutting these products down and in that destroying the moral of members here. That's at least my take on it and I'm sure I'm not the only one to get that vibe. Ultimately I'll decide with my own ears if I like said gear or not.

 

On a side note I liken the experience to just getting your car fully detailed and then parking it under a tree and coming back to a car covered in sh*t :P.
 


Edited by lee730 - 8/18/13 at 1:53am
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She is indeed great and has the talent or the so called gift but sadly the  folk world or the world music world is always neglected because simply put the western standard does not understand them because most of the eastern system is based on improvisation or complex cycles that simply have no place in the systematized and structured classical music of west. 

 

Here is one clip from mastero Shajarian, it normally takes 20-30 minutes for the vocalist to reach his climax. 

 

 

 

I like to get into indian music but that is even harder, the vocalist performance takes normally 40-50 minutes but here are two clips which are off the scale of pianos notes.

 

 

 

mate, i spoke about unique voices, what you posted is max 1.5 octaves... you can find plenty of Arab and Oriental singers who would do it like this and better,... Mongolian deep throat was interesting because of bass but there is a chap in America who has deepest voice in the world, you can google to find this.

 

what i meant was different as i talked about voices as musical instrument and unique voices of singers able to cover four octaves... if you play musical instrument i think you must understand me and my excitement about such rare voices. normal human would cover 1 to 1.25 octaves, 1.5 in best cases... 2.5 octaves is already very nice and 4 octaves is mind blowing. all your examples had perhaps 1.5 octaves to my ears.

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@Lee: That is very true and sadly i tend to do the same from time to time. I do not know what Rin approach is the way he is but I can account for myself. I believe by pointing out the negative first the buyer has an idea what the product faults are as in most cases the negatives are the deal breakers and the positives are just a bonus in my book. But than again what is bad for me is not what is bad for others and this thread proves that.

 

So I guess the safest route is to trust few reviewers and make purchases based on their subjective reviews, if it paid off well good and you know that you and Mr X share the same musical taste and in future you can make such purchases based on their subjective reviews, if not than try again.  

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mate, i spoke about unique voices, what you posted is max 1.5 octaves... you can find plenty of Arab and Oriental singers who would do it like this and better,... Mongolian deep throat was interesting because of bass but there is a chap in America who has deepest voice in the world, you can google to find this.

 

what i meant was different as i talked about voices as musical instrument and unique voices of singers able to cover four octaves... if you play musical instrument i think you must understand me and my excitement about such rare voices. normal human would cover 1 to 1.25 octaves, 1.5 in best cases... 2.5 octaves is already very nice and 4 octaves is mind blowing. all your examples had perhaps 1.5 octaves to my ears.

That is very true but as my mate says "anything above 3 octaves is just for showing off", it is not that most singers can't sing 4 octaves or above most don't as it is time consuming and it really is not that magical to do so. You can only sing at 4 octaves to a very limited range of genera music.

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@Lee: That is very true and sadly i tend to do the same from time to time. I do not know what Rin approach is the way he is but I can account for myself. I believe by pointing out the negative first the buyer has an idea what the product faults are as in most cases the negatives are the deal breakers and the positives are just a bonus in my book. But than again what is bad for me is not what is bad for others and this thread proves that.

 

So I guess the safest route is to trust few reviewers and make purchases based on their subjective reviews, if it paid off well good and you know that you and Mr X share the same musical taste and in future you can make such purchases based on their subjective reviews, if not than try again.  


Well Audionewbi there's a difference between stating your honest opinion and then going that extra mile to troll others. If you state what you feel then so be it. That's your opinion and you have the right to it. But at the same time it is just that, your opinion and not everyone will agree with it. We may all do it from time to time but speaking in absolutes is also insulting. And that brings me back to the graph bit and absolutes....

 

Once you've been here long enough you do get a sense of whom you can & can't trust based on impressions of gear. So it does help to lower the risk of getting burned. But there are no guarantees as we all perceive sound differently to some extent as well as having different preferences. But it does help to minimize the risk, I agree there.


Edited by lee730 - 8/18/13 at 1:55am
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Audionewb, i am afraid your friend is plain mistaken but i am not a music pro so we can ask else forum members who have appropriate background. four octaves are not for showing off.. it all depends in which genre you are, for rock or pop this might be showing off... but for classical theater and opera four octaves are indeed a GEM... ask music teacher if you do not trust me. of course it depends what type of voice a singer has but... for once i will post something what is called contra-tenor... phenomenon voices of males who sing like females, unique:

 


Edited by Gintaras - 8/18/13 at 2:01am
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Audionewb, i am afraid your friend is plain mistaken but i am not a music pro so we can ask else forum members who have appropriate background. four octaves are not for showing off.. it all depends in which genre you are, for rock or pop this might be showing off... but for classical theater and opera four octaves are indeed a GEM... ask music teacher if you do not trust me. of course it depends what type of voice a singer has but... for once i will post something what is called contra-tenor... phenomenon voices of males who sing like females, unique:


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


^^ I really enjoyed that first video, thank you. smile.gif Not sure my Logitech PC speakers were quite doing those voices justice though.

I wonder if I can find it FLAC somewhere.
post #2874 of 6767

chaps, have you heard a Pavlov's Dog? no, not a dog but a rock group biggrin.gif

 

here we go and i am gonna do comparison between ASG2 and 1+2 using this song. stay tuned.


Edited by Gintaras - 8/18/13 at 2:21am
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mate, i am afraid not, no FLAC. i will check but very unlikely. that was TV musical contest and i am not sure they are allowed to issue recordings due to franchise copyrights.

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mate, i am afraid not, no FLAC. i will check but very unlikely. that was TV musical contest and i am not sure they are allowed to issue recordings due to franchise copyrights.

Yes, not that version in particular, what is the song called Gintaras if you don't mind me asking? I can buy it on iTunes, surely I can find it. Even better do you know of an album that song would of been placed on? I have feeling ASG-2 and 1Plus2 will sing very well to the sound of that tune. Unfortunately it's not a genre I am familiar with.
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H20, this song is called ''Con te pаrtiro'' most famously sang by Andrea Bocelli, enjoy it mate

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Those are some enjoyable performance but I really could do without. There are performers out there who only train for sing different octaves and spend their entire career practicing probably 20 handful of opera that they are expected to perform in their career, give them any other song outside their genera and they will struggle. 

 

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Audionewb, i am afraid your friend is plain mistaken but i am not a music pro so we can ask else forum members who have appropriate background. four octaves are not for showing off.. it all depends in which genre you are, for rock or pop this might be showing off... but for classical theater and opera four octaves are indeed a GEM... ask music teacher if you do not trust me. of course it depends what type of voice a singer has but... for once i will post something what is called contra-tenor... phenomenon voices of males who sing like females, unique:

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

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audionewb, i am sorry but from what you tell me i conclude you are not very much into musical profession and may not know much about classics... you say a handful of 20 operas? i only can tell this would very difficult if not impossible ... sorry mate, please ask professional musicians to explain you Why this would be perhaps impossible, seriously i am sorry. frown.gif

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No I am not a professional musician but i am around many of them. Once again it seems to come down to taste, I don't enjoy opera but I do enjoy vocals on ASG-2, they seem to be tuned for that.

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

audionewb, i am sorry but from what you tell me i conclude you are not very much into musical profession and may not know much about classics... you say a handful of 20 operas? i only can tell this would very difficult if not impossible ... sorry mate, please ask professional musicians to explain you Why this would be perhaps impossible, seriously i am sorry. frown.gif
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