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Added preliminary 1Plus2/ASG-2 comparisons to 2nd post.

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Great stuff. For the 1plus2, recent versions greatly improve in build and the new cable has great ergonomics as Gavin listened to our complains.And tip rolling will help fine tune sound. But definetely a different beast from 334.
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Added preliminary 1Plus2/ASG-2 comparisons to 2nd post.
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Nice impressions on the 1+2 so far. Looking forward to your detailed comparisons!
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Added preliminary 1Plus2/ASG-2 comparisons to 2nd post.

 

Very nice. Totally agree with you in your first para re: build etc. 

 

I think it is really something that can be improved upon. I wish I'd be around when it does happen because as it stands, Tralucent is listening and tailoring what they can change to the consensus. 

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Nice impressions eke. I wonder what's with the scooped mids on all these expensive iems. The mids are where it's at! These companies must have a design target, or is every iem tuned by ear? Curious about all of it, especially since these totl iems are supposed to command more value. On what basis?

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Nice impressions eke. I wonder what's with the scooped mids on all these expensive iems. The mids are where it's at! These companies must have a design target, or is every iem tuned by ear? Curious about all of it, especially since these totl iems are supposed to command more value. On what basis?

Not sure which "totl iems" you are referring to but eke mentioned mids are forward and a strength for the ASG2, and also TG334, which I definitely think has the best mids bar none. I think he is only referring to the 1plus2 on the scooped mids? Haven't heard it yet so I can't comment.
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Not sure which "totl iems" you are referring to but eke mentioned mids are forward and a strength for the ASG2, and also TG334, which I definitely think has the best mids bar none. I think he is only referring to the 1plus2 on the scooped mids? Haven't heard it yet so I can't comment.

 

1Plus2 Gold/silver upgrade cable brings out the mids in my opinion. It trims the bass a fair bit though.

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Yeah the ASG-2 mids are decently forward, as are the 334's I'm sure. Fitear seems to attempt to achieve a diffuse field reference. I'm referring to the 1Plus2, IE800, and Flat-4, (maybe the RDB+ 2v1?) which all are about bass and treble it seems, at least more so than the mids. What are these guys trying to sound like? Genuine question I'd like to learn more about.

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Yeah the ASG-2 mids are decently forward, as are the 334's I'm sure. Fitear seems to attempt to achieve a diffuse field reference. I'm referring to the 1Plus2, IE800, and Flat-4, (maybe the RDB+ 2v1?) which all are about bass and treble it seems, at least more so than the mids. What are these guys trying to sound like? Genuine question I'd like to learn more about.

 

I wouldn't know, but I think it is all down to personal preference. Can't suit everyone I guess. 

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Great stuff. For the 1plus2, recent versions greatly improve in build and the new cable has great ergonomics as Gavin listened to our complains.And tip rolling will help fine tune sound. But definetely a different beast from 334.
 

I'm glad they're at least working on it because the cable is ridiculous. I don't even want to use the 1P2 walking around my apt because it's so microphonic. One really might as well buy a HD800 if you want a stationary phone with the 1P2's qualities.

 

 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Nice impressions eke. I wonder what's with the scooped mids on all these expensive iems. The mids are where it's at! These companies must have a design target, or is every iem tuned by ear? Curious about all of it, especially since these totl iems are supposed to command more value. On what basis?

 

I actually understand the tuning that went into the 1P2. Like I said, it's a design choice that really opens up the sound similar to the DT880. The mids are actually very nice in terms of detail and all that, but they're just more laid back.

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These companies must have a design target, or is every iem tuned by ear? Curious about all of it, especially since these totl iems are supposed to command more value. On what basis?

I wonder about this too but I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive, tuning by measurement vs tuning by ear. I would be absolutely shocked if there was a company that had the means to do so and didn't tune both qualitatively and quantitatively.

I've mentioned this to another member in PM but I think a lot of companies are missing an opportunity to manage expectations better by not telling us why they tuned a model a certain way. Not just we wanted it to have good bass and treble, but why do you want to do that. Final Audio Design do this extremely well which is why you see more satisfied FAD IEM owners. You look on the FAD website and they'll tell you something was tuned with vocal realism in mind, or a concert hall experience. You get the IEM because that's what you want and the rest seems to matter less because you got what you expected to get. That's where value lies. I'm more than positive that they measure their IEMs to meet at some performance targets at least, but it's probably a back and forth process.

If a company like FitEar said they had a diffuse field target, I couldn't believe that they wouldn't at the least listen to them to make sure they thought it sounded good. There are still many factors beyond a frequency response target that can change the sound and probably much harder to measure for.
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I'm glad they're at least working on it because the cable is ridiculous. I don't even want to use the 1P2 walking around my apt because it's so microphonic. One really might as well buy a HD800 if you want a stationary phone with the 1P2's qualities.

 

For fear of making this go too far off. I'm just wondering, how difficult is it actually to make a cable less microphonic and retain the same sonic qualities intended? I ask this because there are cheap cables out there that have no hint of microphonics at all. And at the same time, admittedly, I'm no cable/tech/science guy. 

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Some companies tune by ear, others tune by frequency.  Most companies will at least use the frequency response for quality control purposes (driver matching). 

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Ok, I updated the 1P2 comparisons with a few A/B's. 

 

 


 

I'll be sending the 1Plus2 back to its owner on Monday, along with my ASG-2. Then I'll ask him to send the ASG-2 to the owner of the TG334 I used. That way, a few more impressions should roll in soon.

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eke,

 

You mentioned that the ergonomics and microphonics are so bad, which they are but are not bothersome to me, that you might as well just buy a full-sized can. But for me, I do need something closed and transportable. Do you feel the 1p2 is on the level of the HD600 or HD800 in your opinion? How do they equate, in quality, to the top cans you'd rather wear?

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