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post #256 of 6741
The Ortofon tips are worth picking up at any price. They are probably the most unique design + material use I've seen. They sit high, yet are so malleable.
post #257 of 6741
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

The Ortofon tips are worth picking up at any price. They are probably the most unique design + material use I've seen. They sit high, yet are so malleable.

 

Damn, had to pick some up because of this. I'm on a never-ending search for those perfect tips that fit, isolate, and don't utterly @#$% up the sound... One day ;)

post #258 of 6741
Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

Damn, had to pick some up because of this. I'm on a never-ending search for those perfect tips that fit, isolate, and don't utterly @#$% up the sound... One day ;)

 

Part of why I've largely ditched (buying) universals and went with customs.  No fuss, no muss.

post #259 of 6741
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

 

Damn, had to pick some up because of this. I'm on a never-ending search for those perfect tips that fit, isolate, and don't utterly @#$% up the sound... One day ;)

 

Where did you get them from? I've been looking for them based on people talking about them

 

 

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

Part of why I've largely ditched (buying) universals and went with customs.  No fuss, no muss.

 

 

I'll eventually make the jump to customs when I get a decent job. For now universals are pretty nice to me :)

post #260 of 6741
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I'll eventually make the jump to customs when I get a decent job. For now universals are pretty nice to me :)

 

There's no "jump" to customs. These high-end universals, in my opinion, are just as great as any custom, if not better. I am a guy of few tips. Experiment, then find a pair that works and stick with it. You don't need to obsess with tips. Tips to me are a far better concept than a custom that may or may not fit on first try, and hopefully they are in your home country for refit, but even then, you're going to grow out of them eventually.

 

Ortofon works for me. I wear them out after two years, I buy a couple more. No fuss. 

post #261 of 6741
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Just picked up the 1Plus2. I'll try to have comparisons up tonight or tomorrow.

 

Very nice. Looking forward to hearing your impressions.

 

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

The Ortofon tips are worth picking up at any price. They are probably the most unique design + material use I've seen. They sit high, yet are so malleable.

 

Just to be sure as I don't think I can get them locally, these would be the only ones right?

post #262 of 6741
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

 

Damn, had to pick some up because of this. I'm on a never-ending search for those perfect tips that fit, isolate, and don't utterly @#$% up the sound... One day ;)

 

And yes, good call. For some they don't work, for many they do. Definitely worth the shot. It's a unique tip. To me, comfortable, isolating, malleable, and just the right texture to the silicone that absorbs too much resonance (unlike smooth silicone) without killing liveliness. 

post #263 of 6741
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Originally Posted by cravenz View Post

 

Just to be sure as I don't think I can get them locally, these would be the only ones right?

 

cravenz,

 

Not sure what those black things are on eBay, but I promise you Dimitri as Musica Acoustics has the real deal. Email him and ask for a pack of the Ortofon tips. Be sure to email first. I've never seen them in a color besides clear opaque/white colored, but I could be wrong. They can be pricey when you import the real deal from Japan, but worth a shot if you just have not found the right tip. My favorite so far. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 5/31/13 at 9:03pm
post #264 of 6741
Chrriiiisssss sell me yo Ortofon tipsssss :P

I've been so busy I totally forgot that I even sent out my G-1 out for an upgrade. Been like 10 days. Hopefully they'll mail out a G-2 in the next week or so
post #265 of 6741
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

 

cravenz,

 

Not sure what those black things are on eBay, but I promise you Dimitri as Musica Acoustics has the real deal. Email him and ask for a pack of the Ortofon tips. Be sure to email first. I've never seen them in a color besides clear opaque/white colored, but I could be wrong. They can be pricey when you import the real deal from Japan, but worth a shot if you just have not found the right tip. My favorite so far. 

 

Thanks. I've got them, but looking to get some as back up. They are crazy expensive though (double the price) from Musica Acoustics! Guess they are even worse from Japan :D

post #266 of 6741
Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

There's no "jump" to customs. These high-end universals, in my opinion, are just as great as any custom, if not better. I am a guy of few tips. Experiment, then find a pair that works and stick with it. You don't need to obsess with tips. Tips to me are a far better concept than a custom that may or may not fit on first try, and hopefully they are in your home country for refit, but even then, you're going to grow out of them eventually.

 

Ortofon works for me. I wear them out after two years, I buy a couple more. No fuss. 

 

While I haven't heard all the top tier "generic fit" customs or TOTL universals, I tend to mostly agree with your statement (based on conversations about such phones that I've had with other members' whose opinions I trust/gear I've shared).  While we've seen universal-fit IEM design & technology advance to the point that it can go toe-to-toe with custom IEMs (namely, multi-BA architecture with well-implemented crossover networks), what I am surprised by is the lack of development/advancement in universal IEM-based ear tip design.  Sure, we have Comply, but I left them by the wayside quite some time ago due to the (non-transparent) impact they had, more often than not, on universal IEM.  They only tips that have impressed me in terms of transparency and fit have been the HiFiMan bi-flanges (stock biflanges, the Auvio single flange tips (which were widely available at Radio Shack, but mysteriously disappeared a few months ago), and the Ortofon tips.  Of course, all this depends on the IEM being used (as well as insertion depth and all that).. but those three brands seemed to offer the best transparency and consistency across the (many) universals I've owned.

post #267 of 6741
+1 on the Auvio tips. Only ones I can use for the ASG-2 and F111, although certain biflanges work pretty well occasionally.
post #268 of 6741
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Originally Posted by kyuuketsuki View Post

Where did you get them from? I've been looking for them based on people talking about them

 

I got them from what appears to be the same place cravenz listed, except I got the clear ones (link). It's amazing to me how much the tips can change the sound... and yeah, it can definitely be frustrating too. Complys seem to be the most consistently good for me (if you get the ones that don't have the wax guards-- those suck), but on some IEMs, the MEElectronics or Auvio or Klipsch or Sony Hybrid or Monster foams or Monster gels or yadda ad naseum sounds better. I was going through the standard circus on my DBA-02 Mk.II today and ended up using the Klipsch bi-flange, which isolated well and didn't just lose all the bass response, but they were pretty uncomfortable and had to be seated approximately in the center of my brain to work. It does seem like somebody would recognize the business potential here and get scientific about what properties of tips create what results in the sound... Comply was on the right track, but they need to branch out from foams IMO. 

 

/digression, apologies. Looking forward to finding the one set of tips that works with the ASG-2 and gently putting my OCD on the shelf until something new comes along... ;) 

 

Btw, anybody know what the lead time is right now, roughly, on ASG-2 orders? I'm working on my order with Andy and I'm curious. He said they were completely sold out of all stock and are making them as they're ordered, so I'm hoping it's not an endless wait, as patience is not a virtue I'm exceedingly familiar with. :)

post #269 of 6741
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

 

I got them from what appears to be the same place cravenz listed, except I got the clear ones (link). It's amazing to me how much the tips can change the sound... and yeah, it can definitely be frustrating too. Complys seem to be the most consistently good for me (if you get the ones that don't have the wax guards-- those suck), but on some IEMs, the MEElectronics or Auvio or Klipsch or Sony Hybrid or Monster foams or Monster gels or yadda ad naseum sounds better. I was going through the standard circus on my DBA-02 Mk.II today and ended up using the Klipsch bi-flange, which isolated well and didn't just lose all the bass response, but they were pretty uncomfortable and had to be seated approximately in the center of my brain to work. It does seem like somebody would recognize the business potential here and get scientific about what properties of tips create what results in the sound... Comply was on the right track, but they need to branch out from foams IMO. 

 

/digression, apologies. Looking forward to finding the one set of tips that works with the ASG-2 and gently putting my OCD on the shelf until something new comes along... ;) 

 

Btw, anybody know what the lead time is right now, roughly, on ASG-2 orders? I'm working on my order with Andy and I'm curious. He said they were completely sold out of all stock and are making them as they're ordered, so I'm hoping it's not an endless wait, as patience is not a virtue I'm exceedingly familiar with. :)

 

People do know about the way tips impact sound.  Phonak actually did a comparison of their tips and another "clone" tip that looked just like theirs to show how they differently impacted the sound. 

 

Others have actually given subjective impressions on how tips affect sound.  Others have done objective assessments as well (Rin).  However, the way a tip will impact the way an IEM sounds actually depends on the IEM itself.  The shape of the IEM and even the driver types determine how a tip will change an IEM. 

post #270 of 6741

Yep, I know it's something other people are aware of, it just never ceases to amaze me the immensity of the difference they can make. And to your point, if a manufacturer started creating universal-style tips specifically for particular models that addressed certain areas of the sound, it seems like there would be a market for it not only amongst consumers like us, but from the IEM manufacturers as well. If a maker of IEMs knew that they wouldn't be running a virtual crapshoot with OEM tips that are already on the market and could specifically tune them to complement the sound, it seems that would be a solid selling point. Even people who know a great deal about IEMs and the importance of tips can miss out on that one perfect pairing that would have allowed them to experience the sound the way that wanted-- gnarls' experience earlier is a great example. 

 

Anyhoo, I realize this is not a tips thread but an ASG-2 thread, so again I offer up a whole bouquet of whoopsie-daisies to all parties involved. I am definitely still interested in hearing which tips work well with the G-2 though, natch ;)

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