As for the subbass... I finally bit the bullet and pulled up the graph with a sine wave generator. My conclusion? The bass is somewhere in between tinyman's graph and Rin's. There was a pretty sharp drop-off in bass under 100Hz on Rin's graph. I didn't hear any notable changes in relative loudness until 80Hz (so it started at 70Hz). After that it started to lower, but not nearly as much as Rin's graph, but not so little as Tinyman's. Where as Rin's looked to be 1/2ing every 10Hz, I heard just under 1/5ing (approximately) in loudness. Noticeable, yes, but bothersome, no... it still had rumble at 20Hz and I was still able to detect some air movement under that, but it was barely noticeable. 20Hz was there, but low. It was more than many others I've heard though, which is good. Eke said that he heard no difference in loudness between 30 and 60, I heard about a 1/4 loudness difference. But there was still some rumble there. If the crossvalve mod happens and shifts some of that midbass (which is pretty much even with the midrange) to subbass, these will be essentially perfect to my ears.