That makes sense!
But to get to the level of subbass in db's comfortably on the ER4S, the midrange would likely make you deaf. If you agree with this exaggeration, then it's really apples to oranges.
It's just a guess lol. I know I've read some stuff regarding not using crossovers resulting in issues with sound. Now whether that is true or not. I'm not sure?
Andy sent this as a response to an email the other day. I thought he made a good point.
As for re-tuning the device - this is the sound of the ASG-2. The IEM was designed and tuned for on-stage musicians. Their "listening environment" is drastically different to the one that you are trying to put the ASG-2 into. For some users - it is exactly what they want to hear. But it isn't for everyone.
We are following the threads fairly closely over here. And we are taking customer opinion under advisement. But it remains that we have had no complaints or concerns from the pro musician community regarding the sound signature of any of the ASG-1, AS-1, ASG-2 or the AS-2. We are incredibly privileged to have our products compared to others intended for music recreation, and even audiophile experiences - but there is a limit - you can't use a NASCAR vehicle for your weekly shopping runs.
Well wish me luck with the SE5 as that is the king of crossovers :P.
I can't agree with that. Even with my HF5, I get good sub-bass reproduction, albeit it's neutral, but there. We're talking about a complete drop off, I'm not going to even call it a roll off anymore. That's what baffles me... I've never seen an IEM in my lifetime that was working in proper condition and measured properly that measured like an earbud, as if there was no seal whatsoever.
If you don't get sub-bass with an Etymotic, it's because you don't have a proper seal. There really is no other explanation. I lied, there actually is, you're accustomed to a different, bass-heavy, signature :p
I actually much prefer the large UE silicone tips on the Suis. I find the complys take away from the treble and make them more laid back and the sound staging isn't as accurate.
Glad you're liking them :).
Ha, didn't you say they sounded a 1000 times better than your TF10s, which in turn are considered fun sounding IEMs?
You and Eke would make best friends when it comes to rankings.
You need to upgrade your source.
Your chances of ever getting an ASG-2 audition have just plummeted to an all-time low.
yes, i did, and yes, UE RM sounded 1000 times better than TF10 no doubt. like i told you UE RM is one of the most neutral accurate sounding IEMs i head to date and i mean it.
but engaging musicality does not have to do exclusively with neutral or flat response. somebody told this correct, living by graphs will not let you listen to the best sound.
Eke, friends? why not? i am a friendly person, all Eke has to do is to swear by 1+2
Upgrade my source? to iPod or Galaxy? was your coffee this morning too strong?
ok, next time i bring famous BH+C3 combo alongside RWAK setup.
My chances? wow............ mate, you cannot be serious, i know you are very kind person and would never subject me to such torture.
i promise to rip and listen the whole Van Halen collection if this will help to restore your confidence in me.
This is pretty easily explainable as confirmation bias on your part, given there other impressions that don't match up to Rin's graphs. Not trying to be confrontational, just pointing it out. Also, I've found my impressions to line up with garnlsagan's a few times before, so I want to be clear in saying I respect his opinion and am not contesting his views.
Honestly, there seems to me to be a bit of spirit of gleeful malevolence in the critiques of Rin and yourself, rather than the affably detached perspective of someone who simply has more input to offer for the betterment of everyone. If I'm misinterpreting that, then my apologies-- but it seems like you two are a little too glad to be raining on the parade of others to be the product of a truly scientific, empirical mindset.
To be clear, my G-2s sound just as great now as they did before the latest flurry of activity around Rin's graphs (as long as I don't plug them into the D100). My only other thought is that I'd like to try out one of the higher-end Etys at some point to see what a really flat, reference IEM sounds like, as I do tend to like that sound in my other gear.